Where are the American flags on 4th of July ?

[Irvineknight]

Driving out of my hood in Northwood on 4th of July morning, I noticed less than 1 out of 5 homes have American flag proudly displayed. This phenomena puzzles me. Growing up in Tustin in the 70s and 80s, the ratio was more like 4 out of 5; flags everywhere on July 4th, Veteran's day and Memorial day. My parents still live in Tustin, and today's ratio has dwindled to less than 2 out of 5.

Talking to my co-worker who lives in Newport Beach, the ratio is about 4 out of 5 or more.

Are people in Irvine apathetic about their patriotic display or is this a reflection of the demographic ?

Home Depot has American flag kit on sale for $10, which comes with a very nice flag, pole and mounting bracket. Hopefully more people will display their American pride.

 

[ps99472]

Well my kid wore a red white and blue dress and I had some Nathan's (4) while watching Chestnut devour 70. 

I don't recall seeing flags up my entire block and we're a pretty mixed neighborhood.  I'll try next year, maybe I'll start a trend

 

[irvinehusky]

I remember in some of my past neighborhoods the local realtor (whoever he/she hired) would stick small American flags on the front lawn of the whole neighborhood.  Is that not PC now?  I hope not.

 

[aquabliss]

My wife took this picture of me yesterday morning.  I was surprised no other Irvine Homeowners had the same idea:

 

[momopi]

I remember in some of my past neighborhoods the local realtor (whoever he/she hired) would stick small American flags on the front lawn of the whole neighborhood.  Is that not PC now?  I hope not.

Ah yes, the new PC:


American flag:  "flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism....  serve as symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism, but also construct cultural mythologies and narratives that in turn charge nationalistic sentiments.?  (but OK to fly Mexico flag on Cinco de Mayo and anti-Trump Rallies)

American constitution (and Bill of Rights):  "...written by group of old white men who were slave owners and no longer represent modern conditions."  (gotta get rid of that pesky 2A so we can get to 1A and ban "hate speech" with "group libel")

Easter, Thanksgiving, and Christmas:  "...religious symbols that are not  culturally inclusive..."  (but OK to promote non-Christian holidays/traditions in name of tolerance)



I should like, start a Neo-Pagan group in Irvine to fund the construction of Stonehenge at the Great Park.

 

[riznick]

UCI has determined that all flags, including the US flag, are offensive.  Too many cowards are afraid of offending other cowards these days. 

 

[peppy]

UCI has determined that all flags, including the US flag, are offensive.  Too many cowards are afraid of offending other cowards these days.

You may want to read up on how this actually went down, rather than regurgitating fallacies from the internet rage machine.

 

[riznick]

UCI has determined that all flags, including the US flag, are offensive.  Too many cowards are afraid of offending other cowards these days.

You may want to read up on how this actually went down, rather than regurgitating fallacies from the internet rage machine.

You may want to lighten up and take a bit of humor for what it is.

But since you mentioned it...  One of the 6 people who voted for the removal basically stated that flags could be considered offensive.

The resolution to ban the flag, authored by student Matthew Guevara, said that flags can serve as "weapons for nationalism" and that the American flag had been "flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism.

Guevara, the council representative from the School of Social Ecology and the Advocacy Committee vice-chair, wrote further that the intent was to design "a culturally inclusive space," remove barriers and "allow everyone to participate equally and confidently." 

But really, pride in the US flag has seemed to have been getting less and less every year.  There are also now negative stereotypes of people who like to fly the American flag on non holidays.  That said, I do see a lot more pride in our flag when I vacation to other states. 

 

[peppy]

UCI has determined that all flags, including the US flag, are offensive.  Too many cowards are afraid of offending other cowards these days.

You may want to read up on how this actually went down, rather than regurgitating fallacies from the internet rage machine.

You may want to lighten up and take a bit of humor for what it is.

But since you mentioned it...  One of the 6 people who voted for the removal basically stated that flags could be considered offensive.

The resolution to ban the flag, authored by student Matthew Guevara, said that flags can serve as "weapons for nationalism" and that the American flag had been "flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism.

Guevara, the council representative from the School of Social Ecology and the Advocacy Committee vice-chair, wrote further that the intent was to design "a culturally inclusive space," remove barriers and "allow everyone to participate equally and confidently." 

But really, pride in the US flag has seemed to have been getting less and less every year.  There are also now negative stereotypes of people who like to fly the American flag on non holidays.  That said, I do see a lot more pride in our flag when I vacation to other states.

A bunch of misguided students in student council vote to ban the flag in the lobby of their offices - this is important, as it is not something applicable to the UCI campus as a whole. This ban was vetoed by the executive council and after recognizing their bad judgment, student council decides to not try to override the veto. No flag gets banned anywhere. Then the story hits the news cycle, gets misrepresented and blown out of proportion. Alas, that is the only thing that people remember so there is now this perception of UCI as a flag hating bastion of social warriors.

 

[eyephone]

UCI has determined that all flags, including the US flag, are offensive.  Too many cowards are afraid of offending other cowards these days.

You may want to read up on how this actually went down, rather than regurgitating fallacies from the internet rage machine.

You may want to lighten up and take a bit of humor for what it is.

But since you mentioned it...  One of the 6 people who voted for the removal basically stated that flags could be considered offensive.

The resolution to ban the flag, authored by student Matthew Guevara, said that flags can serve as "weapons for nationalism" and that the American flag had been "flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism.

Guevara, the council representative from the School of Social Ecology and the Advocacy Committee vice-chair, wrote further that the intent was to design "a culturally inclusive space," remove barriers and "allow everyone to participate equally and confidently." 

But really, pride in the US flag has seemed to have been getting less and less every year.  There are also now negative stereotypes of people who like to fly the American flag on non holidays.  That said, I do see a lot more pride in our flag when I vacation to other states.

A bunch of misguided students in student council vote to ban the flag in the lobby of their offices - this is important, as it is not something applicable to the UCI campus as a whole. This ban was vetoed by the executive council and after recognizing their bad judgment, student council decides to not try to override the veto. No flag gets banned anywhere. Then the story hits the news cycle, gets misrepresented and blown out of proportion. Alas, that is the only thing that people remember so there is now this perception of UCI as a flag hating bastion of social warriors.

It's up to the university to figure things out and navigate through their issue.

 

[eyephone]

Driving out of my hood in Northwood on 4th of July morning, I noticed less than 1 out of 5 homes have American flag proudly displayed. This phenomena puzzles me. Growing up in Tustin in the 70s and 80s, the ratio was more like 4 out of 5; flags everywhere on July 4th, Veteran's day and Memorial day. My parents still live in Tustin, and today's ratio has dwindled to less than 2 out of 5.

Talking to my co-worker who lives in Newport Beach, the ratio is about 4 out of 5 or more.

Are people in Irvine apathetic about their patriotic display or is this a reflection of the demographic ?

Home Depot has American flag kit on sale for $10, which comes with a very nice flag, pole and mounting bracket. Hopefully more people will display their American pride.

So you want to force people to put up US flags?

 

[eyephone]

If you see a green, white, and red flag with a golden eagle in the middle, it's time to bounce. Lol