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wendyinoc_IHB

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I saw it on the news tonight that we came in 12th. Mission Viejo was #1 and interesting enough Lake Forest beat us for the #10 spot.
 
Ranked Most Dangerous

1. Detroit, Michigan

2. St. Louis, Missouri

3. Flint, Michigan

4. Oakland, California

5. Camden, New Jersey

6. Birmingham, Alabama

7. North Charleston, South Carolina

8. Memphis, Tennessee

9. Richmond, California

10. Cleveland, Ohio



Ranked Safest

1. Mission Viejo, California

2. Clarkstown, New York

3. Brick Township, New Jersey

4. Amherst, New York

5. Sugar Land, Texas

6. Colonie, New York

7. Thousand Oaks, California

8. Newton, Massachusetts

9. Toms River Township, N.J.

10. Lake Forest, California



Source: CQ Press
 
Ouch! And I thought Irvine WAS paradise.





I wonder which one played a bigger parts this year ...





homicide


rape


robbery


aggravated assault


burglary


auto theft





Irvine "shields" Mission Viejo/Lake Forest from the communities to the North that don't rank so well. I guess they need higher walls surrounding the villages. How long until the chain link fence??
 
lendingmaestro - don't count on that. In Vancouver, Canada, some of the high schools with the best test scores in the province (and also happend to be mostly Asian) also had gang issues - if the teachers saw a fight on school grounds, they watched from the windows upstairs and phoned the cops...
 
<p>Bix, Since I don't work in Irvine I can't comment on the possible gang uptick. As with all cities, your gang population will grow as they are pushed out (via enforcement or injunctions or a "green light" on their head) by surrounding municipalities/rivals. How do you think Palmdale/Lancaster got to be such a gang hotbed ? They can thank LAPD/LASD for that. ;)</p>

<p>And maestro....Asian gangs are particulary ruthless. They just don't broadcast their presence like Black and Hispanic gangs do... trust me, they're there.</p>
 
I suspect that the Chief of Irvine PD is not happy that he got bested by two divisions of a highly divided, politicized, and demoralized sheriff's department. Somehow, I think it will be argued that more of the budget needs to be directed toward the PD.





In all honesty though, only a few of those crimes can be prevented beforehand. The stat I'd like to see is how many reported crimes get solved and on which convictions were obtained.
 
<p>How about how much jail time was served. That's the kicker. We pinch 'em, they're right back out. What a crock.</p>

<p>And I have to disagree with you that crimes can't be prevented Eva...with enough bodies and good morale, just watch a good force in action. We're pretty smart cookies ya know. ;)</p>
 
<p>Anyone remember when the IPD murdered that wayward cow on Jamboree?</p>

<p>They dumped something like sixty or eighty rounds into it and it refused to get it out of the road. Then it died. In the middle of the road.</p>

<p> </p>
 
No_vas - Before my time. Do tell!





Troop - The incident I was particularly thinking of was one homicide? aggravated assault? here in Irvine where a hot tempered former boyfriend went to his ex girlfriend's rental condo and shot her in the head. I don't recall if she died. Unless she called the cops sometime beforehand and/or got a restraining order, that was one that couldn't really be prevented beforehand. The auto burglaries and anything occurring in public spaces (including the internet), I agree. Some white collar crimes, yes. It's not that I don't think y'all are very bright, but that one usually only attracts the attention of the police once they have done something to deserve the attention - or otherwise look out of place.
 
if you read closer into the article, irvine was ranked number one on the safest LARGE city list last year. IMHO i think the survey is skew due to the fact that they don't list population vs crime and what sort of crime. As you all know there are always some crazies at UCI.... doing some thing stupid due to all that stress and pressure.
 
<p>Cliffs Notes: beat cops do a bad job of animal control. Officers panics and unloads service sidearm into bovine. No_ grows up on a farm and knows better. </p>



<p><a href="http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/ipd/press_releases/saretirement.asp">http://www.ci.irvine.ca.us/ipd/press_releases/saretirement.asp</a></p>



<p>All I can think is that episode of South Park when they go hunting "It's coming right at us!".<img height="300" width="400" alt="" src="http://www.ziplink.net/~las/103_jimboshootsbear.jpg" /></p>
 
@jbatzmaru: I believe they looked at cities with > 75000 people and used a figure of merit to account for the magnitude of crime on a per capita basis. Irvine is just not as safe as some of the neighboring cities - although it doesn't mean it is a gang haven either.
 
<p><strong>Lies, damn lies, and ... </strong></p>

<p>My understanding is this is based on "reported crime." At one point, El Monte was also "the safest city in America" -- according to FBI statistics (read the last line of <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_Feb_10/ai_59342211 ">this gem</a>.)</p>

<p>Well, if you have a population that tends to distrust police and/or would prefer not to involve law enforcement based on their own situation, of course -- it becomes a very "safe city" according to the statistics.</p>
 
The gang problem in Irvine is only going to get worse. Though the FBI statistics are slow in showing it, gang membership has been skyrocketing as unemployed subprime mortgage brokers find another dishonest way to earn a living.
 
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