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morekaos

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Ok, here we go.  What do you think its worth?  Or what do you think it will sell for?
I'll open at $15,000,000.00

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/04/11/auction-set-for-bankrupt-newport-mega-mansion/160658/

Auction set for bankrupt Newport mega-mansion

A hilltop palace once valued as high as $87 million is set to go on the auction block this month for considerably less after a bankruptcy judge approved the sale of the Newport Coast property.

Owners of the estate once known as Villa del Lago filed for bankruptcy after the project?s lender cut off funding and developers were unable to find a buyer to bail them out.

The auction will take place at the Pelican Hill Resort at 7 p.m. April 26, with simultaneous bidding taking place online.

The sale is being conducted by Irvine-based Auction.com, with a national marketing campaign spearheaded by Newport Beach-based Hom Sotheby?s International Realty.

The opening bid will be established on auction day. And an undisclosed minimum price must be met for the sale to take place.

To participate, bidders must make a $100,000 deposit and provide a letter of credit certifying that they have enough cash to cover their bids.

The buyer must be pay cash since the sale won?t be contingent on getting a loan.

Although the sale appears to be generating strong interest, the price is likely to fall short of the $37 million last asked for the estate when it was on the market. Even at $37 million, the property would sell for less than has been spent developing the unfinished estate thus far.

But the auction will place a definitive value on the property, said Auction.com Vice President Luke Morris.

Once the bidding is done, ?you know that the market has been established,? he said.

More than 700 people attended the first open house held March 25, said Hom agent Rob Giem, who has been marketing the property along with Michelle Queyrel, daughter of one of the property?s backers. Another open house is set for April 22.

?The response has been stronger than what we had guessed,? Giem said.

?We have a number of qualified registered bidders. I don?t think I?m allowed to say how many there are, but there are many,? he said. ?I think this is going to happen. We?re going to make the (court) mandated amount.?

The estate consists of a long, 12.5-acre parcel cascading part way down a hillside on Newport Coast?s inland side. At one end of the property is a palatial, three-story mansion with about 17,000 square feet, twin, V-shaped wings and a 17-car subterranean garage.

Sellers describe the mansion as an ?Italianate villa,? with soaring, triple arches adorning its classically styled facade.

Dominating the property is a man-made lake with pop-jet fountains and a cascading waterfall. The property also has a cave filled with casks of wine, a tennis court, vineyard and horse stables with a small riding area.

For eight years, luxury-home agent John McMonigle was the face of the property he dubbed Villa del Lago, or villa of the lake. It officially came on the market in May 2010 at $57 million.

Real estate professionals praised McMonigle for coming up with a vision for the odd-shaped, inland parcel with a limited ocean view. The partnership bought the land from the Irvine Co. in 2003 for about $3.2 million, county property assessments indicate.

But the partnership ousted McMonigle as the project?s manager and real estate agent after lender OneWest Bank moved to foreclose, propelling the partnership into bankruptcy. In June, the partners hired Giem and Queyrel, who dropped the Villa del Lago moniker.

The property has had its detractors. Its views are mediocre, and it?s outside the nearby gated communities of Pelican Hill and Pelican Crest, detractors say. Although it?s an equestrian estate, there?s no horseback riding nearby.

The buyer must take the property as is, according to auction documents. The house is about 95 percent complete, while the grounds are only about 85 percent complete, Giem said.

But Giem said buyers see potential in the land.

?Most of them have said the parcel is so magnificent,? he said.

Auction.com?s Morris noted that there isn?t a property like it in Orange County.

?There are no comparables,? Morris said. ?This is the last opportunity for buyers to get a property that?s essentially one of a kind in Newport Beach.?

 
we should all go to the open house wearing talkirvine shirts...didnt larry try something similar with ihb?
 
More detail.  Get your cashiers checks ready.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/17/us-usa-housing-mansion-idUSBRE83G19J20120417

California mansion fire sale: the fall of a billion-dollar realtor

(Reuters) - It has 17 bathrooms, a 17-car garage, marbled floors, gold leaf ceilings, a vineyard, horse stables, tennis courts and a lake - and occupies the largest parcel of residential real estate on southern California's exclusive Newport Coast.

This empty, never-sold, soon-to-be-auctioned mega-mansion is a gaudy symbol of the runaway extravagance that gripped the top end of the U.S. real estate market before the housing crash of 2008. Once valued at $87 million, it could be sold for a quarter of that price at an auction next week.

And One Pelican Hill Road North, once known as Villa del Lago, is also a story of housing bubble hubris, embodying the rise and fall of a man who once ruled luxury real estate in one of the world's most expensive housing markets.

 
IndieDev said:
If I bought One Pelican, I'd raze that eye sore and build 60 units of motor court "detached" condos and sell three plans ranging from $850,000 to $1.2 million a pop to guys like rkp.

sorry bud but i am not a fan of motorcourts but make a true SFR on a 5000 sq ft lot in newport coast for $1.2-1.4 and you will have me running to the sales office
 
rkp said:
IndieDev said:
If I bought One Pelican, I'd raze that eye sore and build 60 units of motor court "detached" condos and sell three plans ranging from $850,000 to $1.2 million a pop to guys like rkp.

sorry bud but i am not a fan of motorcourts but make a true SFR on a 5000 sq ft lot in newport coast for $1.2-1.4 and you will have me running to the sales office

In that price range, you might want to consider new construction in Corona del Mar
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Corona-Del-Mar/620-1-2-Begonia-Ave-92625/home/40352180

Nice location, south of PCH
 
i should have been more clear.  i am looking for the same size SFRs that I am looking at in Irvine and thats 3000-3500 sq ft with 4-5 bedrooms.  the CDM property you linked is really nice but way too small
 
who doesnt IHS?  everyone regardless of income wants more...

i know i was dreaming..the type of properties i want with the price range i am comfortable with dont exist in CDM or newport.  indie said i would be running to his motorcourt subdivision and i gave an example of what i would be running to. 
 
We have a winner!!!

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/04/27/bankrupt-newport-villa-draws-winning-bid/161297/

Bankrupt Newport villa draws winning bid

A successful bidder has emerged from the auction of the uncompleted Newport Coast estate once called Villa del Lago.

Rob Giem, an agent with Hom Sotheby?s International Realty, confirmed that a winner has emerged from Thursday?s auction process. Bloomberg News first reported the winning bid and said Giem added that the size of the bid ? and identity of the winner ? aren?t being disclosed because the deal is in escrow. The mansion was sold ?as is? and the minimum bid was not disclosed.

But who is Gary French?
 
morekaos said:
We have a winner!!!

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/04/27/bankrupt-newport-villa-draws-winning-bid/161297/

Bankrupt Newport villa draws winning bid

A successful bidder has emerged from the auction of the uncompleted Newport Coast estate once called Villa del Lago.

Rob Giem, an agent with Hom Sotheby?s International Realty, confirmed that a winner has emerged from Thursday?s auction process. Bloomberg News first reported the winning bid and said Giem added that the size of the bid ? and identity of the winner ? aren?t being disclosed because the deal is in escrow. The mansion was sold ?as is? and the minimum bid was not disclosed.

But who is Gary French?

Gary French is one of the regular guys that comments in Mr. Lansner's blog articles.  Mr. French seems to have a very bearish outlook on OC real estate.  Mr. Pat Veling regularly describes Mr. French as being "snarky".  He and Pat Veling go at each other regularly so I'm sure Mr. Veling is just being sarcastic.  I don't know about Mr. French's financing but I would doubt that he would think this is a good deal.

A sample of their sparring.
http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/04/27/o-c-late-mortgages-cut-by-19/161274/
 
Badda Bing!!!!!  Ouch!!! $18.5 mil?

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/05/14/mansion-once-priced-at-87m-sells-for-18-5m/162662/

Mansion once priced at $87M sells for $18.5M

A 12-acre, Newport Coast estate once priced as high as $87 million sold at auction last month for $18.5 million, the property?s lawyer reportedly told the Wall Street Journal.

At that price, 1 Pelican Hill Road North sold for less than one-fourth of it?s highest asking price. That?s also half off the property?s last formal list price of $37 million.

Even at $37 million, the home?s investors were selling the property for less than replacement costs, according to Auction.com, the firm that held the sale.

Sean O?Keefe, the Newport Beach attorney quoted by the Wall Street Journal, couldn?t be reached to confirm the $18.5 million sale price. The home once was known as Villa del Lago.

If the deal wins approval from the judge overseeing the owners? bankruptcy case and from a foreclosing lender and other creditors, the property?s unidentified buyer must pay a 5% premium to the auction company, or $925,000.

That would bring the total cost of buying the property to $19.4 million ? not even a record for Newport Coast. The record sale price for an Orange County home is $35 million, paid to actor Nicolas Cage in 2008 for a bayfront Newport Harbor mansion.

If the deal wins approval from the judge overseeing the owners? bankruptcy case and from a foreclosing lender and other creditors, the property?s unidentified buyer must pay a 5% premium to the auction company, or $925,000.

That would bring the total cost of buying the property to $19.4 million ? not even a record for Newport Coast. The record sale price for an Orange County home is $35 million, paid to actor Nicolas Cage in 2008 for a bayfront Newport Harbor mansion.

The sellers also must first deduct $693,750 in real estate commissions to the home?s broker, Hom Sotheby?s International Realty, before divvying up the proceeds among its creditors.

Debts on the property likely exceed $30 million, not counting the amount owed to unpaid contractors.

OneWest Bank, which had moved to foreclose on the property in 2011, is the largest creditor, with an outstanding construction loan of $21.6 million. Four other loans on the property brought total debt to at least $29.2 million, according online records.

The estate consists of 12.5 acres with an unfinished 16,600-square-foot mansion, a private lake, horse stables, a tennis court, wine cave and vineyard. The three-story mansion has a 15-car underground garage and is adorned with marble, mosaic and wood ceilings decorated with gold leaf.

But the home?s pool and roof are incomplete. Rob Giem of Hom Sotheby?s International Realty estimated that the house is about 95% complete, and the landscaping is only about 85% done, said listing agent

Giem said cost estimates to complete the property have ranged from $2 million to $3.5 million.

Luxury home agent John McMonigle conceived of the project and pulled together a partnership to buy the long, narrow parcel with mainly canyon and city light views for $3.42 million in 2003, county records show.

The auction was held on April 26.

As it turns out, half of the readers taking part in an informal poll on this blog came close to guessing the home?s selling price. Fifty percent guessed that the property would sell for $20 million or less, with 29% guessing the sales price would be from $15 million to $20 million, and 31% voting for under $15 million.

Twenty percent of the 307 voters guessed the price would be from $20 million to $25 million; 11% voted for $25 million to $30 million; and 10% voted for $30 million and above.
 
What is this 1989?  The Japanese are still buying up America.

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/05/15/industrialist-bid-18-5m-for-newport-coast-estate/162702/

Industrialist bids $18.5 million for Newport estate

A wealthy Japanese newspaper publisher and industrialist made the winning bid of $18.5 million to buy a bankrupt Newport Coast estate once priced as high as $87 million, court records show.

According to court files, Toshiaki Ogasawara, 81, publisher and chairman of Japan?s oldest English language newspaper, The Japan Times, and a USC trustee, is set to become the next owner ? and possibly the first resident ? of the 16,600-square-foot, Tuscan-style 1 Pelican Hill, an estate formerly known as Villa del Lago.

But first, he will need to finish construction of the main house, build a pool and complete landscaping ? work that?s estimated at $2 million to $3.5 million.

Ogasawara was one of four bidders in an auction held with the court?s approval on April 26, the court file states.

Proceeds from the sale are needed to pay off a construction loan from OneWest Bank and, if there?s any money leftover, investors and unpaid contractors.

The transaction is subject to approval by U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert N. Kwan. He is set to review the sellers? motion to approve the sale by Monday, said Sean O?Keefe, a Newport Beach attorney representing the sellers
 
morekaos said:
What is this 1989?  The Japanese are still buying up America.

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/05/15/industrialist-bid-18-5m-for-newport-coast-estate/162702/

Industrialist bids $18.5 million for Newport estate

A wealthy Japanese newspaper publisher and industrialist made the winning bid of $18.5 million to buy a bankrupt Newport Coast estate once priced as high as $87 million, court records show.

According to court files, Toshiaki Ogasawara, 81, publisher and chairman of Japan?s oldest English language newspaper, The Japan Times, and a USC trustee, is set to become the next owner ? and possibly the first resident ? of the 16,600-square-foot, Tuscan-style 1 Pelican Hill, an estate formerly known as Villa del Lago.

But first, he will need to finish construction of the main house, build a pool and complete landscaping ? work that?s estimated at $2 million to $3.5 million.

Ogasawara was one of four bidders in an auction held with the court?s approval on April 26, the court file states.

Proceeds from the sale are needed to pay off a construction loan from OneWest Bank and, if there?s any money leftover, investors and unpaid contractors.

The transaction is subject to approval by U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert N. Kwan. He is set to review the sellers? motion to approve the sale by Monday, said Sean O?Keefe, a Newport Beach attorney representing the sellers

Even with the lost decade, Japan is still a very expensive country and American property is relatively 'cheap' considering what he would have to pay for a comparable property in a premium area of Japan.
 
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