Walking Away

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Calculated Risk has made the argument that there is little or no credible evidence that people are walking away from their mortgage obligations. They may change that stance in light of new data from Freddie Mac.



<a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/05/freddie-mac-on-walking-away.html">Freddie Mac on Walking Away</a>



More from the conference call:



Analyst: Quick question on your direction in terms of housing price declines and the impact on credit costs. Have you looked at the impact of rising LTV's have on the projected credit cost. In other words, if people get close to and then get under water, does the propensity for them to default, does that go up geometrically, and is that captured in your numbers?



Freddie Mac: Yes, clearly it is. And you know you have identified one of the key attributes of the loans in '06 and '07 that are contributing to the higher defaults. As I said in that remarks it has caused us to look hard at what the maximum LTV we're willing to purchase, and it also results in our raising delivery fees to that portion of the population. So it clearly is contributing to higher default costs. It is captured in our numbers. And we have responded both with tightening of terms and raising prices.



Analysts: What do you see? Is it in line with historical default rates as they get underwater or does it ...



Freddie Mac: No, it is different. The rate of increase in defaults in that part of the population is much steeper. <strong>For those borrowers that bought a home based on rapid house price appreciation as a way to grow wealth, if they find themselves quickly underwater - you know we're even seeing it when we try to modify and renegotiate those loans - they are walking away. They're finding it not constructive.</strong> I do think the raft in defaults for that portion of the population is steeper than historical observations, and we are reflecting that in our expectations.
 
I believe currently it is definitely more than an urban legend (basically CR's suggestion lacking hard evidence), but not the pandemic others have espoused.



My bottom line on walking away: Real, not yet pervasive, but growing.



SCHB
 
I think it will morph from a small problem into a large one. As the guy from Freddie Mac noted, the default rate gets very steep once people go underwater. Since prices are still falling and more and more people are underwater, the trickle will turn into a torrent.
 
I suspect that this is what underlies the real data--that the conversion rate from NOD to NTS has gone from 30% to 70%. I bet the rate approaches 100% soon.
 
To me, the key word is "borrowers." For speculators, I definitely think it's true that they would walk away. For owner-occupied units, I'm not so sure.
 
[quote author="EvaLSeraphim" date=1210840511]To me, the key word is "borrowers." For speculators, I definitely think it's true that they would walk away. For owner-occupied units, I'm not so sure.</blockquote>


I think the banks are holding substantial hope that this potential distinction limits their downside risk, but I suspect they will be be very disappointed in the end. Without much or any downpayment, the line becomes extremely blurry.



SCHB
 
Walking away is, for the most part, the absolute best solution to homeowners who are underwater.



The only factors to consider is how far under are you, and what is the future outlook for recovery back to past levels.



That's if you have a fixed rate loan with an affordable payment, that is...
 
Or you could try <a href="http://realestate.msn.com/Selling/Article2.aspx?cp-documentid=6527928&GT1=35000">this genius move</a>...



"Ahlbrand's colleague, Noah Herrera, recently sold a client's two-bedroom house for $250,000 -- or about $100,000 less than he paid for it. A tough break, to be sure, but that same owner was then able to snap up a luxury four-bedroom home bought for $685,000 a few years ago for a mere $413,000. "He lost money on his house, but the upside (of his purchase) far outgained that," Herrera says."



Way to go...lose $100k and then take on way more debt!
 
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