Tips for leasing an IAC apartment

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I've been lurking for a while and I'd like to thank everyone for the information they've offered. I figure it's my turn to contribute some things that I hope you will find useful. This information has been obtained second hand but can be deemed fairly reliable.

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Tips for leasing an IAC apartment:</strong>



Leasing Consultants (LCs) are NOT the enemy. Rather than viewing them like other sales people, consider the following. The typical IAC Leasing Consultant has zero interest in the amount of rent you pay for your apartment. They are paid on a tier system that rewards the number of leases they get signed per month...period. They will usually do anything in their power to get you the best deal, because at the end of the day, your signature on a $1200 studio pays the same as your signature on a $3000 3x2. Their first and foremost priority is to fill their property. (As an interesting aside, IAC LCs make between $32k and roughly $85k per year...the primary difference is volume).



Visit the property when you are ready to make your decision. Never give the impression that you won't reserve an apartment on that first visit. The sooner you tell them you are ready to move, the more likely you are to get the best deal. NEVER say you are looking to move 45+ days from now. As a general rule, the best deals are on vacant apartments. Vacant apartments must be moved into within 2 weeks. If you are looking to move more than 2 weeks out, you are automatically going to be offered apartments that are "on notice" with other residents currently living in them. Discounts on these apartments are rare and always significantly worse than vacant apartment specials.



Leasing teams are evaluated on a weekly and monthly basis. Many times the best deals are found at the end of a week or month as they try to wedge in those last minute deals.



IAC Considers the high season from March - August. But specials tend to be directly based on the property's availability and occupancy for the particular week.



<strong>Know your market rent:</strong>



There are a few ways to go about this. You can check a property's rental-living.com website which lists market prices on available apartments. But the easiest way is to just ask the leasing consultant. Think of the market rent as the suggested retail price. It's your starting point and any discount you receive will be a percentage of that original market price.

<strong>

Know your discounts and specials:</strong>



IAC does not tend to lower market rents...ever. But they DO tend to offer deeper and deeper discounts from those market prices to find the sweet spot that their apartments rent at. Once a property reaches and maintains occupancy/availability goals, discounts can evaporate entirely.



Rent Discounts(Dependent on occupancy and availability): 3, 5, 7, even 10% discounts off market rents.



Concessions (Dependent on occupancy and availability): $250, $500, $1000, half month, first month free, etc. Rent credits toward move in costs. Often these are listed on a property's rental-living website. But always ask the LC if there is anything better. Some properties may offer $500 off on 1 beds, but $1000 off on two beds. It is not unheard of to be able to negotiate that $1000 on your 1 bed if you are willing to hold the apartment on that visit.



First Visit Special (Always available): Save $100 off standard security deposit when you hold an apartment on your first visit to the property. Note that this will only be offered if your credit qualifies you for the standard security deposit (standard deposits as follows: $600 for studios and 1 beds, $700 for 2 beds, $800 for 3 beds, etc...).



Auto Debit Special (Always available): Sign up for the auto debit program allowing them to take rent from your bank account at the beginning of each month and save $200 off your security deposit (regardless of the amount of deposit required from you).



Resident/Agent Referrals (Always available): These are "source of business referrals" which typically cannot be stacked with other source of business referrals and are not paid to you but someone else. You must list on your guest card and on your applications how you heard about the property. If it's a current resident of the property you are moving in to that referred you, that person can receive anywhere from $300-$500 depending on the property. RE Agents can usually receive $300. Listing the IAC info center as the referral source or using a website coupon will often negate all other "source of business" referral fees. I discourage you from trying to find someone on Craigslist offering to be your referral. More often than not those people have already been fished out by management and, even if they don't know it, are no longer eligible to receive referral fees.



Creative Specials (commonly offered at lease up properties but very rarely advertised): Some communities have common rooms that can be rented. Ask your LC for 6 hours use of the club room or maybe an additional parking space. Perhaps there is additional storage on site for rent that you can have thrown in.



<strong>Techniques for "Negotiation"</strong>



As mentioned above, you're never really in heated negotiation with an IAC LC. Their goals and yours tend to be in alignment. The one thing they don't want to see is you walking out the door.



Develop a friendly rapport with the LC. If you walk in the door with the idea that you're going to walk all over them and impose your will during "negotiations" your LC will be far less motivated to help you get the incredible deal you want. Smile, laugh, ask them about their job, how they like it, what they want to do down the road, how they chose to become an LC. Invest a little time getting to know them and make them WANT to help you get the best deal.



Don't bring up the 1st visit special, the auto debit deal, or the referral fees until you and the LC have established the discount and possible stacked concession. Focus on finding out what the current discount is and if the property is stacking a concession with it. Sometimes they have stacking incentives, a lot of times they don't. But the Auto Debit,1st visit specials, and referral fees can almost always be tacked on to a deal at the end.



To be sure you've gotten the best deal, let the LC know you really like the place and you're soooo close to signing papers RIGHT NOW. Ask them if there's ANYTHING else they can offer. Encourage them to ask their supervisor if they can do anything more. Give them the impression that if they cannot find a way to sweeten the deal any further, you're going to check out another property and get back to them. Mention The Village, Villa Siena, The Enclave, or the most recent IAC lease up to make the LC uncomfortable. These properties are either the richest in amenities or are lease ups offering decent incentives. At this point if there is anything else they can offer, they will. If they've already offered "the kitchen sink," they will reluctantly let you walk away and you've found the bottom line best deal at the moment. A great IAC deal would look something like this:

7% rent discount

$1000 off 1st month

$400 friend referral

$200 auto debit

$100 first visit

(you may also be able to get all this on a shorter lease term when normally they only offer it on a full 12 month agrement)



<strong>Some Other Final Thoughts</strong>



Everyone loves finding the best deal. But always be wary of that market rent. The deeper your discount is below the market rent the more likely you are to see a triple digit rent increase when your lease is up.



I've used a lot of words like, "usually", "tend to", "almost always" to stress to the point that none of this can be viewed as absolute. Different properties/managers behave differently. Some are more liberal with discounts and exceptions than others. But in general you should be able to gather some useful information here. Even if IAC has an established practice that managers are not to deviate from...sometimes they do and unless you're willing to go to war over that additional $200 incentive, sometimes you just have to accept it.



Recently IAC changed its qualification practice. For most leases they no longer require proof of income or verification of employment. Instead they decided to increase security deposits $100 across the board and as far as I know they no longer waive application fees. They still require you to qualify on the monthly income minimum of 2.7x the rental amount...but as long as credit isn't a huge problem, it looks like they just "take your word for it" when it comes to the income and employer you write on your application.



It's never a bad idea to write glowing letters of appreciation about staff you've had good encounters with. Usually hand deliver them to the office or even ask management whom you can email at the corporate level to share your praise. The more you can be remembered as "that friendly resident who says nice things about us" the more likely you are to have your maintenance requests handled quickly, your renewal negotiations to go smoothly, and receive all the other pleasant intangibles.









If you found any of this helpful and would like more info on other IAC related issues, let me know and I'll do my best to find and share the answers with you.
 
Great post. We've lived in an IAC property for over 2 years now. During that term, we've renewed our lease twice. When your lease comes up, they will present you with a few options (x months @ $/month). Don't be shy to walk over to the leasing office and inquire if they have y months available. If you're nice, the LC will open the big printout of rental lease expire dates and try to work a new date with you. also if your renewed rent is high (as compared to what they are offering on the same apartment today), kindly ask if they can at least match the current rate.



i have a relatively good relationship with our property manager (because we don't get any complaints, nor do i nag them about things). if you've been a big pain-in-the ass tenant, i'm sure the above won't work for you. ive heard some horror stories of tenant or freaks in our complex who've done some crazy stupid things to make life hard for the IAC LC or property manager. I doubt they'll get any love from the IAC LC.
 
Great post. I thought this was interesting:



[quote author="Cuatro" date=1220162942]They still require you to qualify on the monthly income minimum of 2.7x the rental amount...but as long as credit isn't a huge problem, it looks like they just "take your word for it" when it comes to the income and employer you write on your application.</blockquote>


So now that "liar loans" are a thing of the past on mortgages, it looks like you can get a "liar lease!"
 
[quote author="Cuatro" date=1220162942]I've been lurking for a while and I'd like to thank everyone for the information they've offered. I figure it's my turn to contribute some things that I hope you will find useful. This information has been obtained second hand but can be deemed fairly reliable.

<strong>

Tips for leasing an IAC apartment:</strong>



Leasing Consultants (LCs) are NOT the enemy. Rather than viewing them like other sales people, consider the following. The typical IAC Leasing Consultant has zero interest in the amount of rent you pay for your apartment. They are paid on a tier system that rewards the number of leases they get signed per month...period. They will usually do anything in their power to get you the best deal, because at the end of the day, your signature on a $1200 studio pays the same as your signature on a $3000 3x2. Their first and foremost priority is to fill their property. (As an interesting aside, IAC LCs make between $32k and roughly $85k per year...the primary difference is volume).



Visit the property when you are ready to make your decision. Never give the impression that you won't reserve an apartment on that first visit. The sooner you tell them you are ready to move, the more likely you are to get the best deal. NEVER say you are looking to move 45+ days from now. As a general rule, the best deals are on vacant apartments. Vacant apartments must be moved into within 2 weeks. If you are looking to move more than 2 weeks out, you are automatically going to be offered apartments that are "on notice" with other residents currently living in them. Discounts on these apartments are rare and always significantly worse than vacant apartment specials.



Leasing teams are evaluated on a weekly and monthly basis. Many times the best deals are found at the end of a week or month as they try to wedge in those last minute deals.

IAC Considers the high season from March - August. But specials tend to be directly based on the property's availability and occupancy for the particular week.

<strong>Know your market rent:</strong>

There are a few ways to go about this. You can check a property's rental-living.com website which lists market prices on available apartments. But the easiest way is to just ask the leasing consultant. Think of the market rent as the suggested retail price. It's your starting point and any discount you receive will be a percentage of that original market price.

<strong>

Know your discounts and specials:</strong>



IAC does not tend to lower market rents...ever. But they DO tend to offer deeper and deeper discounts from those market prices to find the sweet spot that their apartments rent at. Once a property reaches and maintains occupancy/availability goals, discounts can evaporate entirely.



Rent Discounts(Dependent on occupancy and availability): 3, 5, 7, even 10% discounts off market rents.



Concessions (Dependent on occupancy and availability): $250, $500, $1000, half month, first month free, etc. Rent credits toward move in costs. Often these are listed on a property's rental-living website. But always ask the LC if there is anything better. Some properties may offer $500 off on 1 beds, but $1000 off on two beds. It is not unheard of to be able to negotiate that $1000 on your 1 bed if you are willing to hold the apartment on that visit.



First Visit Special (Always available): Save $100 off standard security deposit when you hold an apartment on your first visit to the property. Note that this will only be offered if your credit qualifies you for the standard security deposit (standard deposits as follows: $600 for studios and 1 beds, $700 for 2 beds, $800 for 3 beds, etc...).



Auto Debit Special (Always available): Sign up for the auto debit program allowing them to take rent from your bank account at the beginning of each month and save $200 off your security deposit (regardless of the amount of deposit required from you).



Resident/Agent Referrals (Always available): These are "source of business referrals" which typically cannot be stacked with other source of business referrals and are not paid to you but someone else. You must list on your guest card and on your applications how you heard about the property. If it's a current resident of the property you are moving in to that referred you, that person can receive anywhere from $300-$500 depending on the property. RE Agents can usually receive $300. Listing the IAC info center as the referral source or using a website coupon will often negate all other "source of business" referral fees. I discourage you from trying to find someone on Craigslist offering to be your referral. More often than not those people have already been fished out by management and, even if they don't know it, are no longer eligible to receive referral fees.



Creative Specials (commonly offered at lease up properties but very rarely advertised): Some communities have common rooms that can be rented. Ask your LC for 6 hours use of the club room or maybe an additional parking space. Perhaps there is additional storage on site for rent that you can have thrown in.



<strong>Techniques for "Negotiation"</strong>



As mentioned above, you're never really in heated negotiation with an IAC LC. Their goals and yours tend to be in alignment. The one thing they don't want to see is you walking out the door.



Develop a friendly rapport with the LC. If you walk in the door with the idea that you're going to walk all over them and impose your will during "negotiations" your LC will be far less motivated to help you get the incredible deal you want. Smile, laugh, ask them about their job, how they like it, what they want to do down the road, how they chose to become an LC. Invest a little time getting to know them and make them WANT to help you get the best deal.



Don't bring up the 1st visit special, the auto debit deal, or the referral fees until you and the LC have established the discount and possible stacked concession. Focus on finding out what the current discount is and if the property is stacking a concession with it. Sometimes they have stacking incentives, a lot of times they don't. But the Auto Debit,1st visit specials, and referral fees can almost always be tacked on to a deal at the end.



To be sure you've gotten the best deal, let the LC know you really like the place and you're soooo close to signing papers RIGHT NOW. Ask them if there's ANYTHING else they can offer. Encourage them to ask their supervisor if they can do anything more. Give them the impression that if they cannot find a way to sweeten the deal any further, you're going to check out another property and get back to them. Mention The Village, Villa Siena, The Enclave, or the most recent IAC lease up to make the LC uncomfortable. These properties are either the richest in amenities or are lease ups offering decent incentives. At this point if there is anything else they can offer, they will. If they've already offered "the kitchen sink," they will reluctantly let you walk away and you've found the bottom line best deal at the moment. A great IAC deal would look something like this:

7% rent discount

$1000 off 1st month

$400 friend referral

$200 auto debit

$100 first visit

(you may also be able to get all this on a shorter lease term when normally they only offer it on a full 12 month agrement)



<strong>Some Other Final Thoughts</strong>



Everyone loves finding the best deal. But always be wary of that market rent. The deeper your discount is below the market rent the more likely you are to see a triple digit rent increase when your lease is up.



I've used a lot of words like, "usually", "tend to", "almost always" to stress to the point that none of this can be viewed as absolute. Different properties/managers behave differently. Some are more liberal with discounts and exceptions than others. But in general you should be able to gather some useful information here. Even if IAC has an established practice that managers are not to deviate from...sometimes they do and unless you're willing to go to war over that additional $200 incentive, sometimes you just have to accept it.



Recently IAC changed its qualification practice. For most leases they no longer require proof of income or verification of employment. Instead they decided to increase security deposits $100 across the board and as far as I know they no longer waive application fees. They still require you to qualify on the monthly income minimum of 2.7x the rental amount...but as long as credit isn't a huge problem, it looks like they just "take your word for it" when it comes to the income and employer you write on your application.

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Great information!!! As I will become a Irvine Renter in the next few weeks...what day do you suggest going on the first visit, Friday or Sunday and probably go towards the end of the day too??? The rent discounts that you've mentioned above, those would be off the retail market rate that IAC has posted on their website?

I intend on renting for 12+ months...would it be beneficially for me to bring up the fact that I'm interested in a 12-month to try to get the best package deal?

I notice that the IAC website shows that come complexes have special pricing for various units or general move-in incentives...it's more likely then not one has the best chance to get the best deals at those properties, right?
 
[quote author="cantaloop" date=1220170924]Great post. We've lived in an IAC property for over 2 years now. During that term, we've renewed our lease twice. When your lease comes up, they will present you with a few options (x months @ $/month). Don't be shy to walk over to the leasing office and inquire if they have y months available. If you're nice, the LC will open the big printout of rental lease expire dates and try to work a new date with you. also if your renewed rent is high (as compared to what they are offering on the same apartment today), kindly ask if they can at least match the current rate.



i have a relatively good relationship with our property manager (because we don't get any complaints, nor do i nag them about things). if you've been a big pain-in-the ass tenant, i'm sure the above won't work for you. ive heard some horror stories of tenant or freaks in our complex who've done some crazy stupid things to make life hard for the IAC LC or property manager. I doubt they'll get any love from the IAC LC.</blockquote>
Do you mind PMing me to let me know which IAC apartment complex you live in and if you could recommend a LC to work with? Also, does the rent to pay at the IAC apartment complex pick up any utilities like gas, water, and/or trash (i.e. what utilities do you pay for)?
 
Also -There is a $600 pet deposit in addition to a $25 per pet per month premium. I was unaware of this and mentioned I had 2 cats, so now I pay a $50 pet premium every month.



[quote author="Cuatro" date=1220162942]I've been lurking for a while and I'd like to thank everyone for the information they've offered. I figure it's my turn to contribute some things that I hope you will find useful. This information has been obtained second hand but can be deemed fairly reliable.

<strong>

Tips for leasing an IAC apartment:</strong>



Leasing Consultants (LCs) are NOT the enemy. Rather than viewing them like other sales people, consider the following. The typical IAC Leasing Consultant has zero interest in the amount of rent you pay for your apartment. They are paid on a tier system that rewards the number of leases they get signed per month...period. They will usually do anything in their power to get you the best deal, because at the end of the day, your signature on a $1200 studio pays the same as your signature on a $3000 3x2. Their first and foremost priority is to fill their property. (As an interesting aside, IAC LCs make between $32k and roughly $85k per year...the primary difference is volume).



Visit the property when you are ready to make your decision. Never give the impression that you won't reserve an apartment on that first visit. The sooner you tell them you are ready to move, the more likely you are to get the best deal. NEVER say you are looking to move 45+ days from now. As a general rule, the best deals are on vacant apartments. Vacant apartments must be moved into within 2 weeks. If you are looking to move more than 2 weeks out, you are automatically going to be offered apartments that are "on notice" with other residents currently living in them. Discounts on these apartments are rare and always significantly worse than vacant apartment specials.



Leasing teams are evaluated on a weekly and monthly basis. Many times the best deals are found at the end of a week or month as they try to wedge in those last minute deals.



IAC Considers the high season from March - August. But specials tend to be directly based on the property's availability and occupancy for the particular week.



<strong>Know your market rent:</strong>



There are a few ways to go about this. You can check a property's rental-living.com website which lists market prices on available apartments. But the easiest way is to just ask the leasing consultant. Think of the market rent as the suggested retail price. It's your starting point and any discount you receive will be a percentage of that original market price.

<strong>

Know your discounts and specials:</strong>



IAC does not tend to lower market rents...ever. But they DO tend to offer deeper and deeper discounts from those market prices to find the sweet spot that their apartments rent at. Once a property reaches and maintains occupancy/availability goals, discounts can evaporate entirely.



Rent Discounts(Dependent on occupancy and availability): 3, 5, 7, even 10% discounts off market rents.



Concessions (Dependent on occupancy and availability): $250, $500, $1000, half month, first month free, etc. Rent credits toward move in costs. Often these are listed on a property's rental-living website. But always ask the LC if there is anything better. Some properties may offer $500 off on 1 beds, but $1000 off on two beds. It is not unheard of to be able to negotiate that $1000 on your 1 bed if you are willing to hold the apartment on that visit.



First Visit Special (Always available): Save $100 off standard security deposit when you hold an apartment on your first visit to the property. Note that this will only be offered if your credit qualifies you for the standard security deposit (standard deposits as follows: $600 for studios and 1 beds, $700 for 2 beds, $800 for 3 beds, etc...).



Auto Debit Special (Always available): Sign up for the auto debit program allowing them to take rent from your bank account at the beginning of each month and save $200 off your security deposit (regardless of the amount of deposit required from you).



Resident/Agent Referrals (Always available): These are "source of business referrals" which typically cannot be stacked with other source of business referrals and are not paid to you but someone else. You must list on your guest card and on your applications how you heard about the property. If it's a current resident of the property you are moving in to that referred you, that person can receive anywhere from $300-$500 depending on the property. RE Agents can usually receive $300. Listing the IAC info center as the referral source or using a website coupon will often negate all other "source of business" referral fees. I discourage you from trying to find someone on Craigslist offering to be your referral. More often than not those people have already been fished out by management and, even if they don't know it, are no longer eligible to receive referral fees.



Creative Specials (commonly offered at lease up properties but very rarely advertised): Some communities have common rooms that can be rented. Ask your LC for 6 hours use of the club room or maybe an additional parking space. Perhaps there is additional storage on site for rent that you can have thrown in.



<strong>Techniques for "Negotiation"</strong>



As mentioned above, you're never really in heated negotiation with an IAC LC. Their goals and yours tend to be in alignment. The one thing they don't want to see is you walking out the door.



Develop a friendly rapport with the LC. If you walk in the door with the idea that you're going to walk all over them and impose your will during "negotiations" your LC will be far less motivated to help you get the incredible deal you want. Smile, laugh, ask them about their job, how they like it, what they want to do down the road, how they chose to become an LC. Invest a little time getting to know them and make them WANT to help you get the best deal.



Don't bring up the 1st visit special, the auto debit deal, or the referral fees until you and the LC have established the discount and possible stacked concession. Focus on finding out what the current discount is and if the property is stacking a concession with it. Sometimes they have stacking incentives, a lot of times they don't. But the Auto Debit,1st visit specials, and referral fees can almost always be tacked on to a deal at the end.



To be sure you've gotten the best deal, let the LC know you really like the place and you're soooo close to signing papers RIGHT NOW. Ask them if there's ANYTHING else they can offer. Encourage them to ask their supervisor if they can do anything more. Give them the impression that if they cannot find a way to sweeten the deal any further, you're going to check out another property and get back to them. Mention The Village, Villa Siena, The Enclave, or the most recent IAC lease up to make the LC uncomfortable. These properties are either the richest in amenities or are lease ups offering decent incentives. At this point if there is anything else they can offer, they will. If they've already offered "the kitchen sink," they will reluctantly let you walk away and you've found the bottom line best deal at the moment. A great IAC deal would look something like this:

7% rent discount

$1000 off 1st month

$400 friend referral

$200 auto debit

$100 first visit

(you may also be able to get all this on a shorter lease term when normally they only offer it on a full 12 month agrement)



<strong>Some Other Final Thoughts</strong>



Everyone loves finding the best deal. But always be wary of that market rent. The deeper your discount is below the market rent the more likely you are to see a triple digit rent increase when your lease is up.



I've used a lot of words like, "usually", "tend to", "almost always" to stress to the point that none of this can be viewed as absolute. Different properties/managers behave differently. Some are more liberal with discounts and exceptions than others. But in general you should be able to gather some useful information here. Even if IAC has an established practice that managers are not to deviate from...sometimes they do and unless you're willing to go to war over that additional $200 incentive, sometimes you just have to accept it.



Recently IAC changed its qualification practice. For most leases they no longer require proof of income or verification of employment. Instead they decided to increase security deposits $100 across the board and as far as I know they no longer waive application fees. They still require you to qualify on the monthly income minimum of 2.7x the rental amount...but as long as credit isn't a huge problem, it looks like they just "take your word for it" when it comes to the income and employer you write on your application.



It's never a bad idea to write glowing letters of appreciation about staff you've had good encounters with. Usually hand deliver them to the office or even ask management whom you can email at the corporate level to share your praise. The more you can be remembered as "that friendly resident who says nice things about us" the more likely you are to have your maintenance requests handled quickly, your renewal negotiations to go smoothly, and receive all the other pleasant intangibles.









If you found any of this helpful and would like more info on other IAC related issues, let me know and I'll do my best to find and share the answers with you.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="LJinOC" date=1221010749]Also -There is a $600 pet deposit in addition to a $25 per pet per month premium. I was unaware of this and mentioned I had 2 cats, so now I pay a $50 pet premium every month.</blockquote>
I guess you shouldn't have mentioned anything since they would have never noticed that you had cats. I don't have any pets so no worries there for me.
 
I'm glad you appreciate the information.



Yes, the rent discounts above would be off the market prices which are the prices that show up under the "pricing and floor plans" section of each property's rental-living website.



You will definitely be responsible for gas and electric (except at some older properties that do not have gas piped in). You should plan on paying water/trash/sewage as well, though this varies from property to property.



Which day of the week should you make your first visit? Well it's a bit of a loaded question. Sunday is the last day of the work week for IAC. So logically, Sunday is the day you're most likely to find a manager stressing for a last minute lease. But Sunday is also the last day of the weekend meaning that the Friday/Saturday crew may have picked over the lowest priced options already. You're still likely to get the best deal on Sunday, but had you acted on Friday you may get the same deal on an apartment with a lower market price. So it's a crapshoot. Still, if it were me, I would visit and hold on a Sunday afternoon (make an appointment ahead of time).



Another point to mention is that you should call ahead and ask the Leasing Consultant what their "current specials" are. They will likely try their hardest to have a long, drawn out conversation with you "to build rapport," but if you politely let them know that the special is your main concern and you need to know if they have the best deal because you're creating a short list of properties to visit on Sunday, they will likely quote you their best deal over the phone. If you like it, ask for the apartment number, and ask for the next best deal or two (this way if one leases before you make it in, you have a good idea what the next best will be).



Mentioning the 12 month lease is usually beneficial for insuring you receive the best concession (why would they offer $1000 off first month if you're only staying for 3 months?). However it may not have any effect on your rent discount. Some managers may actually prefer you take a shorter lease on a huge discount. That gives them the opportunity to try and bring you up to the market rent sooner. But, to answer your question, yes I would mention the long term lease to get the best possible deal.



Discounts listed on each property's website are put there by the managers themselves. So just because a property has nothing on their rental-living website, does not necessarily mean they are not offering great deals. It just means the managers are not on the ball with their marketing.



As far as which property I would recommend, that's highly personal and I'm happy to help if you want to give me some more info. PM me with what it is you're looking for (size, move in date, amenities, appliances, locations, etc). I may even be able to make some phone calls to find out the best deals at some of the places I'm more familiar with.



[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1220974215][quote author="Cuatro" date=1220162942]

Great information!!! As I will become a Irvine Renter in the next few weeks...what day do you suggest going on the first visit, Friday or Sunday and probably go towards the end of the day too??? The rent discounts that you've mentioned above, those would be off the retail market rate that IAC has posted on their website?

I intend on renting for 12+ months...would it be beneficially for me to bring up the fact that I'm interested in a 12-month to try to get the best package deal?

I notice that the IAC website shows that come complexes have special pricing for various units or general move-in incentives...it's more likely then not one has the best chance to get the best deals at those properties, right?</blockquote>
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1221013613][quote author="LJinOC" date=1221010749]Also -There is a $600 pet deposit in addition to a $25 per pet per month premium. I was unaware of this and mentioned I had 2 cats, so now I pay a $50 pet premium every month.</blockquote>
I guess you shouldn't have mentioned anything since they would have never noticed that you had cats. I don't have any pets so no worries there for me.</blockquote>


When I signed my lease and mentioned I had two black cats, my IAC agent was smart enough to tell me "No, you have one black cat." I replied "No, I have two cats." She then smiled and said again "No, you have one cat, and that will be only $25 instead of $50." I then finally got the idea...duh :-)
 
Thanks for your help Cuatro! I just sent you a PM with that I'm looking for.



[quote author="Cuatro" date=1221023455]I'm glad you appreciate the information.



Yes, the rent discounts above would be off the market prices which are the prices that show up under the "pricing and floor plans" section of each property's rental-living website.



You will definitely be responsible for gas and electric (except at some older properties that do not have gas piped in). You should plan on paying water/trash/sewage as well, though this varies from property to property.



Which day of the week should you make your first visit? Well it's a bit of a loaded question. Sunday is the last day of the work week for IAC. So logically, Sunday is the day you're most likely to find a manager stressing for a last minute lease. But Sunday is also the last day of the weekend meaning that the Friday/Saturday crew may have picked over the lowest priced options already. You're still likely to get the best deal on Sunday, but had you acted on Friday you may get the same deal on an apartment with a lower market price. So it's a crapshoot. Still, if it were me, I would visit and hold on a Sunday afternoon (make an appointment ahead of time).



Another point to mention is that you should call ahead and ask the Leasing Consultant what their "current specials" are. They will likely try their hardest to have a long, drawn out conversation with you "to build rapport," but if you politely let them know that the special is your main concern and you need to know if they have the best deal because you're creating a short list of properties to visit on Sunday, they will likely quote you their best deal over the phone. If you like it, ask for the apartment number, and ask for the next best deal or two (this way if one leases before you make it in, you have a good idea what the next best will be).



Mentioning the 12 month lease is usually beneficial for insuring you receive the best concession (why would they offer $1000 off first month if you're only staying for 3 months?). However it may not have any effect on your rent discount. Some managers may actually prefer you take a shorter lease on a huge discount. That gives them the opportunity to try and bring you up to the market rent sooner. But, to answer your question, yes I would mention the long term lease to get the best possible deal.



Discounts listed on each property's website are put there by the managers themselves. So just because a property has nothing on their rental-living website, does not necessarily mean they are not offering great deals. It just means the managers are not on the ball with their marketing.



As far as which property I would recommend, that's highly personal and I'm happy to help if you want to give me some more info. PM me with what it is you're looking for (size, move in date, amenities, appliances, locations, etc). I may even be able to make some phone calls to find out the best deals at some of the places I'm more familiar with.



[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1220974215][quote author="Cuatro" date=1220162942]

Great information!!! As I will become a Irvine Renter in the next few weeks...what day do you suggest going on the first visit, Friday or Sunday and probably go towards the end of the day too??? The rent discounts that you've mentioned above, those would be off the retail market rate that IAC has posted on their website?

I intend on renting for 12+ months...would it be beneficially for me to bring up the fact that I'm interested in a 12-month to try to get the best package deal?

I notice that the IAC website shows that come complexes have special pricing for various units or general move-in incentives...it's more likely then not one has the best chance to get the best deals at those properties, right?</blockquote></blockquote>
 
I also sent a PM about which complexes allow larger dogs, feel free to post those complexes here since some other members may also be interested in that.
 
Dogs (off the top off my head)



Rancho Tierra and Turtle Rock Canyon accept dogs of any size. Tierra is in Tustin Ranch and is one of the less expensive complexes within IAC...All appliances are included but all are electric. Turtle is one of the most expensive. It also includes appliances, no gas, and don't expect to get cell phone reception, regardless of the service you use.



Villa Siena is the only property I can think of that accepts no pets.



I will ask around and see if I can get a more expansive list of properties accepting large dogs.



*Update* Here are some other communities I was told to try for med/large dogs:



Newport Bluffs

Baypointe



Portola Place

Villa Coronado (up to 60 pounds and at management's discretion)

Mirasol (Lease up near Woodbury opening its doors in about a month. May or may not take large dogs)

Palmeras (Lease up near Woodbury that opened up a few weeks ago. May or may not take large dogs)
 
<span style="color: blue;"><<Develop a friendly rapport with the LC. If you walk in the door with the idea that you?re going to walk all over them and impose your will during ?negotiations? your LC will be far less motivated to help you get the incredible deal you want. >></span>



Really good post. I wish I had this advice before renting. I definitely went in 'guns blazing' and it did not get me anywhere that I couldn't have gotten by just playing nice.



It definitely helps to understand the sales folks motivation, so thanks for including that!
 
[quote author="Cuatro" date=1221307574]I'm glad you found it useful. I'm thinking of doing another post on renewal negotiation.</blockquote>


That would be great! My lease is up again in January, we love the place we're in now and don't want to move, we're what I would call perfect Tennants and by that I mean we pay the rent at least a week before it's due, we take care of the place, in fact, we're rarely here plus we never bother the Management unless it's justified like for instance abandoned Cars left on our Door Step etc. We are the kind of Renters that companies like IAC like in other words, we had an increase last year and feel at $2300 pm we're already paying enough for a 2-story 2bed 2 1/2 bath with only one Garage...so I'm being fair too...



But thanks again for taking the time to educate us/me, I really appreciate it...
 
[quote author="24inIrvine" date=1221092722]I also sent a PM about which complexes allow larger dogs, feel free to post those complexes here since some other members may also be interested in that.</blockquote>


Yeah, it would be nice to keep info like this on the open forum if possible, it's good info..obviously there's stuff People want to keep private, I understand that too of course...



Some people who live here at our complex have HUGE Dogs..
 
OK. I'll work on an IAC Renewals post over the next few days.



Here's a teaser though:



While Leasing Consultants have no interest in what you pay when you first lease the apartment, they DO have motivation to stick you with a higher renewal increase. :)
 
Thanks for this great post. I am passing it on to my friends renting at IAC. My friend at Santa Rosa said the LCs are not very responsive when problems arise. e.g. neighbors partying till 2am, people parking in fire lanes. The ones at Brittany don't reinforce the rules on multiple flyers they sent out, e.g. people parking in front of their garages overnight, tenants using pool after hours(midnight), partying neighbors, etc. And I heard the Santa Maria LCs don't give too much deals during renewals, my friend got $10 off her 2 bdrm apt / month only.

Look forward to your new post, Cuatro! ;-)
 
[quote author="Cuatro" date=1221113337]Dogs (off the top off my head)



Rancho Tierra and Turtle Rock Canyon accept dogs of any size. Tierra is in Tustin Ranch and is one of the less expensive complexes within IAC...All appliances are included but all are electric. Turtle is one of the most expensive. It also includes appliances, no gas, and don't expect to get cell phone reception, regardless of the service you use.



Villa Siena is the only property I can think of that accepts no pets.



I will ask around and see if I can get a more expansive list of properties accepting large dogs.



*Update* Here are some other communities I was told to try for med/large dogs:



Newport Bluffs

Baypointe



Portola Place

Villa Coronado (up to 60 pounds and at management's discretion)

Mirasol (Lease up near Woodbury opening its doors in about a month. May or may not take large dogs)

Palmeras (Lease up near Woodbury that opened up a few weeks ago. May or may not take large dogs)</blockquote>


We have a large dog at turtle ridge, but we are in a townhome--so I don't know if that makes a difference? I see others that I think are in apts that have large dogs as well...
 
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