Some points on Bernanke's subprime speech

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<p>Here are some of the highlights and lowlights of <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/19809564">Bernanke's speech</a>. I have of course made some points of my own. </p>

<p><em>"Historically, about half of homeowners who get a foreclosure notice are ultimately displaced from their homes, but that ratio may turn out to be higher in coming quarters because the proportion of subprime borrowers, who have weaker financial conditions than prime borrowers, is higher."</em></p>

<p>This is when a borrower gets the notice of trustee sale the second stage of the foreclosure process. I don't know if the 50% rule is true historically because finding NTSs data has just become available. I will try to find a way to find out if this is true for OC. But what is scary is that NTSs are increasing very rapidly and a ratio above 50% will be nasty.</p>

<p><em>"Raising the quality of underwriting practices by all lenders to a uniformly high standard is an important objective."</em></p>

<p>Now I agree with this and really it should have never been an issue in the first place. What I do not agree with is how is this perceived as helpful in the current market. How does this help the borrower who has a $500k two year loan at a rate of 7.5% that made his/her payments on time but still has a 640 FICO? It doesn't because now the borrower can't get a loan amount that high and even if he/she could the loan would have a rate near 9%. This does not help the current market. Higher underwriting standards should have been in place five years ago and all this does is make the forclosure problem worse.</p>

<p><em>"The Board will review nonbank subsidiaries of bank holding companies, and the other agencies will conduct similar reviews of nondepository institutions of thrift holding companies, independent mortgage lending companies, and mortgage brokers doing business with these entities. The reviews will include an evaluation of the companies' underwriting standards and senior-management oversight of the practices used for ensuring compliance with consumer protection regulations and laws."</em></p>

<p>Now if this had been in place over five years ago several of the slimy broker shops who were run by convicted felons would never have come into existance. </p>

<p><em>"Most recently, as I am sure Committee members are well aware, subprime mortgage losses that triggered uncertainty about structured products more generally have reverberated in broader financial markets, raising concern about the consequences for economic activity. As I noted in a speech last month at the economic symposium hosted by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, the turbulence originated in concerns about subprime mortgages, but the resulting global financial losses have far exceeded even the most pessimistic estimates of the credit losses on these loans. These wider losses reflect, in part, a significant increase in investor uncertainty centered on the difficulty of evaluating the risks for a wide range of structured securities products, which can be opaque or have complex payoffs. Investors also may have become less willing to assume risk. Some increase in premiums that investors require to take risk is probably a healthy development on the whole, as these premiums have been exceptionally low for some time. However, in this episode, the shift in risk attitudes combined with greater credit risk and uncertainty about how to value those risks has created significant market stress. On the positive side of the ledger, past efforts to strengthen capital positions and financial market infrastructure places the global financial system in a relatively strong position to work through this process."</em> </p>

<p>I guess no one has sent Bernanke the link to Irvinerenter's <a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/2007/05/14/the-anatomy-of-a-credit-bubble/">Anatomy of a Credit Bubble</a>. He is right in saying that even the most pessimistic did not see this happening as rapidly as it has but many of us here have been waving the red flag. And yes the risk pricing has been underpriced for many years now and it does not matter how low the prime rate is it won't change investor sentiment. Note to Bernanke don't listen to Ben Stein who said only that only $67bil of loans will be foreclosed on. He misspoke and meant to say that is just for Countrywide. Also you might want to start reading some of the blogs as you would be surprised at the diversely and highly educated people who post on them. </p>

<p><em>"Earlier this week, Federal Open Market Committee lowered its target for the federal funds rate by 50 basis points. The action was intended to help forestall some of the adverse effects on the broader economy that might arise from the disruptions in financial markets and to promote moderate growth over time. Recent developments in financial markets have increased the uncertainty surrounding the economic outlook. The Committee will continue to assess the effects of these and other developments on economic prospects and will act as needed to foster price stability and sustainable economic growth."</em></p>

<p>I, like many here, was against a rate cut but when I read this it is clear that the Fed has shifted their concern from inflation to the economy. I do not see how this will help all that much other than with a lower dollar manufacturing could pick up and increase our exports which will help the GDP. I do have some faith in Bernanke and although he is flying around in his chopper right now I think he has a greater concern for the economy. How he fixes it or makes it worse will be determined later.</p>
 
<p>I am astonished at when I hear Paulson speak. He seems to stutter and make things up as he goes along, as if he doesn't know what he's talking about. He also looks very nervous all the time.</p>

<p>I laughed my ass off listening to those congress men and women blumber on as they know what they are talking about.</p>
 
BB's voice shakes when he talks. Paulson strikes me as a linebacker from a college football team. How about when, at the end, the HUD guy couldn't answer the Congresswoman's question about RESPA....first silence, then "um, well...err...I'll talk to you about that in private". She was very gracious at letting it go, I thought.
 
These hearings were very cordial compared to the ones we will be having 6 to 9 months from now. Right now everyone is still in denial on Capitol Hill. Wait until that turns to fear and anger.





IMO, the collapse of housing will be <em>the </em>"hot button" issue of the 2008 election cycle.
 
<p><em>"IMO, the collapse of housing will be the "hot button" issue of the 2008 election cycle".</em> </p>

<p>IR, so who do you think has positioned themselves best in the race (so far) with this statement in mind ?</p>
 
I would like to say Ron Paul, but he has no chance.





The Democrats will all pander to the poor homedebtors, but they won't actually do anything for them. I haven't heard any of the other Republicans talk about the issue. They are all busy trying to be the toughest on terrorism.
 
<p>Troop: Positioned best in the race to <em>win</em> or to actually fix the mess?</p>

<p>Dunno about the former. The latter is Ron Paul. That was easy. </p>
 
Off topic:





I like Ron Paul, but I am unclear about how he would protect our country since he wants to do away with the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, etc. Is anyone clear on what he would do to protect us?
 
waiting - Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, so my guess is that he thinks it is the governments responsibility to provide for the common defense.
 
I guess what I want to know is specifically how would he provide for the common defense -- just use military intelligence and the military to protect us at home? If we get rid of the CIA and Homeland Security, how will we gather intelligence to prevent attacks?
 
We were living in the DC suburbs at the time of 9/11 and my brother was living/working in NYC not far from the attacks. I understand that the government agencies may have missed signs that could have forewarned of the attacks and that too much bureaucracy is a problem, but how will we be better off with less people working on the problems? What would he do to provide for the common defense?
 
<i>"how will we be better off with less people working on the problems?"</i><p>


Maybe the number of people "working on the problem" has no effect except to take away your liberty and freedom. If too much bureaucracy was a problem, is more bureaucracy or government involvement a solution? He didn't say he would disband the armed forces, did he?
 
Although more people working on something isn't always a good thing (too many cooks), I don't agree that it necessarily leads to taking away our liberty and freedom. I think we need people keeping an eye out for terrorist plots. We need these agencies to run intelligence to inform the military about where the bad guys are and what they are planning. They also provide defense against plots other than military plots (e.g., espionage). In short, I think they work together with the military to protect our security and well being.





Also, I said I think that too much bureaucracy is a bad thing -- it slows things down sometimes that should move quickly, but it also works to slow down hasty actions. Furthermore, I did not say, nor did I imply , that he would disband the armed forces.





I said, I like Ron Paul, I just have concerns about our national security and wonder how he specifically would defend us as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. I think it is an important issue and need to know more specifics before I could completely support him.
 
I don't think Ron Paul is talking about doing away with the functions of government as much as he is hoping to disband or reform the agencies that carry out those functions. He will never get elected because he has proposed doing away with the IRS, etc. I don't think he wants to quit obtaining tax revenue, so his more radical proposals are more attention getters than anything else.





There are no dovish Republicans, so I wouldn't worry about him failing to protect the US.
 
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