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I am about to sign the contract , the builder gave me the disclosure . I was shock when I realized this site is polluted with TCE and PCB  which may cause cancer . Please see attached photos ! I don't know this place is a former Marine corps air station as well  :o
I would be greatly appreciated if you guys can give me some opinions. Anyone live at / near beacon park please tell me your thoughts. Thanks !
 

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pay attention to the source and direction.  Beacon Park is actually north of the concentration of the Plume, and its moving in a Western Direction. 

State regulations require remediation, but it is remediation to a particular level.  The plume has created a huge superfund site because it affects all water well sites in Irvine, so they are pouring in millions to try to control it to prevent contamination.  Mostly comes down to pumping through millions of gallons of water through filters to recover these organic compounds.  Well contamination is probably a more pressing problem than VOCs a few hundred feet below you.
Other items are probably more realistically more hazardous such as living close to busy freeways where contamination is freely spewed into the air.

In general finding a place without an issue is going to be hard - many places in CA are/were superfund sites.  The risk is always there, and as long as most people buy/don't care, then you'll just see values go up and up. I prefer open disclosure than hiding it, but its no different than the fact many businesses in CA have put up a sign saying that there are chemicals/substances around that could cause cancer.  Around Celadon I saw Construction Signs saying if there were high winds that blew the dirt, they needed to call an emergency number (I feel for those workers, they will probably get more exposure than anyone living there after its all built up)- no doubt goes back to contamination from the old Base.

If you loved Opus I would still sign it.  Its not like it'll sit there - they sell these units that aren't even built yet.  FWIW, I have signed on a place at Rowland that will be rdy later this year, so clearly i've made the decision for myself.
 
I would avoid tap water even if I weren't living in Irvine.  People take for granted that when water runs clear from the faucet it must be safe.  I would filter any water before giving it to my family.
 
upon9k said:
I would avoid tap water even if I weren't living in Irvine.  People take for granted that when water runs clear from the faucet it must be safe.  I would filter any water before giving it to my family.

The water filter most likely won't help. Its more like using bottle water to drink, cook, and take a shower..  ;)
 
OCLuvr said:
Do we know that bottled water is not regulated?

My previous statement was a joke regarding taking a bath using bottle water.

I'm just guessing the bottle water company is not getting the water from areas with traces of TCE?
 
Got that, but if bottled water is not regulated then what is the guarantee that it is not contaminated.
 
OCLuvr said:
Got that, but if bottled water is not regulated then what is the guarantee that it is not contaminated.

"How is bottled and vended water regulated in California?
Manufacturers of bottled water (whether located in-state, out-of-state, or in a foreign country) and providers of vended water must be licensed and regulated by the California Department of Public Health, Food and Drug Branch (FDB) in order to sell or distribute their products in California.  FDB inspects in-state bottlers and vendors for sanitation, manufacturing operation control, equipment and quality control procedures, testing requirements, record keeping, labeling, and advertising.  For bottlers located out-of-state or in foreign countries, FDB relies on the inspection by the pertinent regulatory agency of the state or the country where the plant is located.  However, the bottlers must provide pertinent documents to FDB for review and must apply for a Bottled Water Plant License."
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/pubsforms/Pages/fdbBVWfaq.aspx
 
OCLuvr said:
Isn't Similar inspection is done even for tap water😄?

"Are bottled and vended water regulated the same as tap water?
No.  The regulations for tap water are different from those for bottled water mainly because their sources are different.  Source waters for producing public drinking water include lakes, rivers, and wells, while bottled water must be produced only from already approved sources (e.g., public drinking water or a licensed private water source).  The key purpose of treatments for tap water is to make the water safe.  Accordingly, the regulations for tap water are to meet that purpose.  On the other hand, a water bottling plant, a water vending machine, or a retail water facility treats approved water to improve its quality (mainly clarity, flavor, and taste) by treatment with filtration processes (such as activated carbon, reverse osmosis, micro-filtration) and disinfection (such as ozone, ultraviolet light).  Since the source water, purpose, and the types of equipment used for tap water are different from those for bottled water and vended water, comparing the regulations for the two different groups of products is not appropriate."
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/pubsforms/Pages/fdbBVWfaq.aspx


(Turning into a drinking water thread  ;))

 
OCLuvr said:
Isn't Similar inspection is done even for tap water😄?

Well if we are to believe Irvine Water District, those contaminated wells are supposedly "only used for irrigation".  My question is if we spray liberally over our lawn, and then the sun causes excess drops to evaporate....hmm isn't that breathing in TCE vapors???  Is that supposed to make us feel safer?
 
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