OC agents talk about last year and year ahead: No Kool-Aid shortage

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The OCR has an <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sections/money/housing/2007housing/">entire page dedicated to RE now</a>. It has zip code <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/article/map-of-oc-1960211-home-sales">maps of the sales</a> and percentage of <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/article/map-of-oc-1960210-home-prices">prices increasing or decreasing</a>. Ouch, Irvine had a lot of red.





<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/article/real-year-estate-1959859-buyers-market"> The best was the assessment the agents had</a>. Many familiar names, spinning the same crap... Pent up demand, buyers market, foreigners, don't let the deals pass you by, and a "bottom call" from the Kool-Aid kingpin Gary "Pablo Escobar of RE" Watts.





Ah... yes, the media is to blame. If an agent/broker is a veteran, then they should know this whining didn't work in the 90s and it isn't going to work now.


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2007:</strong>"The "real" real estate truth is that our buyers could have been a little less skeptical if our media would have not "lumped" the Coast in with the Inland Empire. I truly believe in our area. There is only so much coast line and ocean view. It was a different market alright, a little tougher even for this real estate veteran. In spite of all the negative press that we hear and see in print, if you take the actual numbers around the coast communities our prices did not drop that much, but the number of transactions did.

<p><strong>What's ahead: "</strong>Let me get my crystal ball. I am an optimist. I see the glass not only through rose-colored glasses but always half full. Our coastal communities will hold their value in spite of most national forecasts. A little positive input from you our media voice would help." </p>

<p><em>---Maria Elena Banks/Prudential California Realty and board member of the Orange County Association of Realtors</em></p>

<p><em>Monarch Beach</em></p>

<p>Note to self: Avoid Ruben Rodarte for any RE transaction. His level of professionalism is non-existent.


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<p><strong>2007:</strong>"Chicken Littles of the real estate world keep on clucking. Bright blue skies existed for our smart buyers and sellers." </p>

<p><strong>2008:</strong>"Critical factors are aligned and poised to make select individuals (who employ certain strategies) successful and, not to mention, wealthy. Low Rates + Inflated Home Supply + Economic Value + Pent-up Buyer/Seller Motivation = Opportunities Galore." </p>

<p><em>--Ruben Rodarte/Prudential California Realty</em></p>

<p><em>Anaheim Hills</em></p>

<p>Yup, this gem right here, will get all that pent up demand to get his phone ringing like crazy. He had to have snorted some Cherry Cracker flavored Kool-Aid before he took the OCR call. Seriously, it is the only reason that could explain the pure stupidity of this extremely unprofessional comment.


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<p><img alt="" src="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park/2070/CRACKER.GIF" /></p>




Now... From IHB's most <strike>loved</strike> hated RE <strike>economist</strike> spinmaster...


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2007:</strong> "The year was not what I expected for the industry but with all aspects of the media (print, broadcast, electronic, etc.) constantly "forecasting" steep price declines in housing, it is a wonder that housing made it through the year without a "collapse." Sure prices are down from their peak but home prices are still higher than they were at the end of 2004. Homeowners that purchased in the last couple of years and had to sell, most likely lost money. You can talk all you want about foreclosures but this year the total number may reach 4,000 homes and condos. Remember, the county has 800,000 homeowners. The credit markets greatly over-reacted to the subprime mess in 2007, which added to the misery of Orange County homeowners. As the year came to an end, the financial markets were working out their problems and clearing a way for lending in 2008."

<p><strong>Looking ahead:</strong>"With interest rates for home loans continuing to decline, the buyers can not afford to stay on the sidelines too much longer. The lenders are restructuring their loan programs and bringing new types of loans to the marketplace. Buyers now have the perfect combination of low rates, the best selection of homes in a decade, and really good prices. If they truly find the home they love, it is going to be hard not to buy with interest rates in the low 5's. <strong>This may well be the "bottom year" for real estate.</strong> So my advice for buyers: "2008 - Should Be The Year Not To Hesitate!" </p>

<p><em>--Gary Watts/broker for Impact Real Estate and real estate forecaster</em></p>

<p><em>Mission Viejo</em></p>
 
<p>"Let me get my crystal ball. I am an optimist. I see the glass not only through rose-colored glasses but always half full. Our coastal communities will hold their value in spite of most national forecasts. A little positive input from you our media voice would help." </p>

<p>So I am supposed to take her objectively and realistically? She was probably the one saying that the Titanic would be okay once the deck chairs were in proper configuration. So ridiculous!!! </p>

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<p>What it says - <strong><em><u>A little positive input from you our media voice would help."</u></em></strong> </p>

<p>What it should say- <strong><em><u>A little positive input from ANYWHERE would help."</u></em></strong> </p>

<p>What it Says -<strong><em><u> With interest rates for home loans continuing to decline, the buyers can not afford to stay on the sidelines too much longer</u></em></strong></p>

<p>What it should say - <strong><em><u>With interest rates for home loans continuing to decline, the companies that made billions off of toxic loans are crumbling, many of them centered right here in the OC and the people making 6 to 7 figures will have to back to the bartending/Barista/Manicurist jobs. Those houses will start flooding the market soon. Oh and the job market for RE agents isn't so hot either. You may want to see if you can get your old job back at Macy's</u></em></strong></p>
 
And just think...these are the RE agents who are supposedly good enough at what they do to still be in the business.





"Veling's data shows that just 55 percent of the county's active real estate agents participated in at least one sale last year – half of them with just one or two sales apiece.





<strong>The remaining 45 percent "had no income in 2007</strong>," he said.





"That is inefficiency in our business that we can no longer afford, and many businesses will be making tough decisions when the spring selling season doesn't materialize (this year)," Veling said. "I anticipate a radical reduction in agents participating in the multiple listing service in 2008."


<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/money/year-percent-sales-1959768-prices-fell">Link</a>
 
<p>Wow, </p>

<p> Lets all depend on media hype to make a housing decision! </p>

<p>Wow, this completely blows me away. My question is how do these people get so successful while making such blatently retarded statments?</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
that map is great... i wonder how the foreign money argument overlays with the map. let's see...





<strong>zip codes that fared the best: </strong>


newport beach, but the bluffs and inland areas moreso than areas like newport coast


canyon areas - silverado, modjeska


tustin ranch


floral park area of santa ana


san juan capistrano


laguna niguel


la habra


villa park





tustin foothills, santa ana heights, and hills around VP/orange were neutral. as were inland areas of south county.





<strong>worst zip codes</strong>


irvine - especially new irvine


westminister


garbage grove


anacrime





the lesson here looks like to me is go where the old white money lives, not where immigrant communities are. i know, that sounds incredibly racist. the other takeaway is trendy places in irvine, newport, and laguna (i.e. newer neighborhoods vs older neighborhoods, coastal living vs inland in ) have not fared as well as their "less-desirable" counterparts.





but don't follow the really really OLD money (laguna woods was deepest red!)
 
<p>My biggest issue about the "media" complaint is that none of these realtors had any problems when the press was reporting that home prices were going through the roof and that homeownership is the greatest thing in the world. No one complained when the media gave David Lereah card blanche to spew propaganda about how everyone needs to buy a house. None of these realtors complain when ridiculous people like Tom Adkins and Connie Degroot get to go on national "business" show and pretend that they are economic experts. Now, it is the media's fault for causing the bubble to burst?</p>

<p>Utterly ridiculous. </p>
 
"Note to self: Avoid Ruben Rodarte for any RE transaction. His level of professionalism is non-existent."



It would be great to a list going of all the agents that say, have been quoted as saying ridiculous, permabull statements in the media. The polemic bastards need to be punished for duping people into buying.
 
[quote author="biscuitninja" date=1200504087]<p>IrvineCommuter</p>

<p>In the immortial words of Blazing Saddles "Harumph! Harumph! Harumph! Harumph!" </p>

<p>-bix</p></blockquote>


So sad to see we lost Hedy, I mean Hedley Lamar this week...



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