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Supposedly true story...



The following has been cut and pasted directly from an email a friend of mine received from a guy he knows in the city and was in response to a discussion they were having on the preponderance of Obama bumper stickers and the absence of McCain?s:

Email:

?I was in Calle Ocho last Saturday, and my server had on an "Obama 08" tie--again I

laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence!

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I

was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in

disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone

who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside on Columbus Ave. The server angrily stormed

from my sight. I swear to God.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $20 and told him to thank the server

inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was

ecstatic.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the

homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was

pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual

recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than

in practical application. They ought to put that on their bumpers!?
 
[quote author="optimusprime" date=1224889824]Supposedly true story...



The following has been cut and pasted directly from an email a friend of mine received from a guy he knows in the city and was in response to a discussion they were having on the preponderance of Obama bumper stickers and the absence of McCain?s:

Email:

?I was in Calle Ocho last Saturday, and my server had on an "Obama 08" tie--again I

laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence!

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I

was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in

disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone

who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside on Columbus Ave. The server angrily stormed

from my sight. I swear to God.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $20 and told him to thank the server

inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was

ecstatic.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the

homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was

pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual

recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than

in practical application. They ought to put that on their bumpers!?</blockquote>


brilliant experiment on an Obama supporter. I guess if they are truly supporters of Obama tax policies, they should have no issues with this redistribution of "wealth". Or even if they don't like this particular Obama policy, they are willing to take this consequence due to their strong preference of other Obama polices.



Instead of letting "obama" to redistribute the wealth, maybe I should do is by starting to adjust the salaries of the guys who work for me depend on their "wealth".
 
[quote author="irvine123" date=1224890702][quote author="optimusprime" date=1224889824]Supposedly true story...



The following has been cut and pasted directly from an email a friend of mine received from a guy he knows in the city and was in response to a discussion they were having on the preponderance of Obama bumper stickers and the absence of McCain?s:

Email:

?I was in Calle Ocho last Saturday, and my server had on an "Obama 08" tie--again I

laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence!

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I

was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in

disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone

who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside on Columbus Ave. The server angrily stormed

from my sight. I swear to God.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $20 and told him to thank the server

inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was

ecstatic.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the

homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was

pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual

recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than

in practical application. They ought to put that on their bumpers!?</blockquote>


brilliant experiment on an Obama supporter. I guess if they are truly supporters of Obama tax policies, they should have no issues with this redistribution of "wealth". <strong>Or even if they don't like this particular Obama policy, they are willing to take this consequence due to their strong preference of other Obama polices. </strong>



Instead of letting "obama" to redistribute the wealth, maybe I should do is by starting to adjust the salaries of the guys who work for me depend on their "wealth".</blockquote>


EXACTLY!



I think I may start trying this experiment if I find an Obama supporter waiting on me.
 
OK but how is taking money from someone who makes minimum wage an application of a plan that doesn't raise your taxes unless you make over $250k per year? I'm not in here to disagree or agree with Obama's policies... but I am just so tired of how every policy *from both candidates* is taken to the extreme in order to discredit it. The problem is, it's a tad weaker of an argument if someone says "I make $500,000 per year and I want the maximum amount of discretionary income to invest...since I can already pretty much buy anything I need". Keep in mind, I'm not arguing from either side. I just hate the way everything is spun in order make a black/white situation out of a complete gray area. To prove it, here's another talking point I can't stand: "John McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time." OK, well from what I've read, Obama voted with his party even more than that (maybe even 100% of the time, but don't quote me on that).



All of this is done so each candidate's marketing machines can cater to the lowest common denominator. Knowing that, realize that repeating these dubious claims from either side is NOT a sign of intelligence...quite the contrary, actually.
 
Can't you apply this "experiment" to any benefit the government provides? For example mortgage interest deductions, child exemptions, public school funds, national defense, etc. By not lowering someones taxes you can argue that



- hey, I didn't give you a tip so we can use that money to subsidize the mortgage of some guy

- you don't need a tip, dude has a kid and he should get the money

- I'm taking your tip and spending it on some kids education

- no tip for you since that will buy a couple of bullets



in all those cases you can claim that you are taking the money of a common tax pool and "redistributing" to those you deem deserve it - instead of giving that money back (or in effect taxing someone less).
 
Honestly optimusprime, this is very weak argument.

It sounds clever, but it is totally flawed.



Using you argument, we should just stop having a government, and each one should be on their own. This is the only way you will never distribute wealth, either by class, by lobbying interests ...etc.



Why I pay property TAXES that go to schools if I have NO kids?

Am I re-distributing my wealth to others who have kids?

Why should I even care about them?

Why cannot we just let everyone on their own?



You see, you can apply that logic to anything here in America, from education, defense, health care ...etc. and you will find it IS actually already about redistribution of wealth.

I will not even go to redistribution of wealth to bankers and wall street.



We are already redistributing wealth; it is just a matter of to whom and to what degree.



Using your argument, my property tax should be much much lower, since I have no kids.



Anyway, nice argument, but really is just a political gimmick. Hanging by a thread type of argument.



:)
 
Oversimplifications like these are devised in order to let people of simple intelligence feel like they're participating in politics. Unfortunately any national (and many local) candidates must find ways to appeal to the "hyuk hyuk everyman". At least this time the president himself won't be one anymore.
 
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