New carbon monoxide (CO) requirement

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irvinerealtor

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An update for anyone who owns or lives in a house...
(don't know if IAC already has these in place).

-IrvineRealtor

Dec. 1, 2010

Q 1.  What is carbon monoxide?

A  Carbon monoxide is a gas produced whenever any fuel, such as gas, oil, kerosene, wood, or charcoal, is burned.  A person cannot see or smell carbon monoxide.  However, at high levels carbon monoxide can kill a person in minutes.

In addition, there are well-documented chronic health effects of acute carbon monoxide poisoning from exposure to carbon monoxide, such as lethargy, headaches, concentration problems, amnesia, psychosis, Parkinson?s disease, memory impairment, and personality alterations.

(Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 13261.)

Q 2.  Is there a new California law dealing with the issue of carbon monoxide poisoning?

A  Yes.  The Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Prevention Act of 2010 (Cal. Health & Safety Code ?? 13260 et seq.) was signed into law this year.  It requires carbon monoxide detectors to be installed in every ?dwelling unit intended for human occupancy.?
  The California legislature also modified both the TDS (for residential one-to-four unit real property) and MHTDS (for manufactured homes and mobilehomes) to include a reference to carbon monoxide detector devices.  See below for more details.

Q 3.  What is a carbon monoxide detector?

A  It is a relatively inexpensive device similar to a smoke detector that signals detection of carbon monoxide in the air.  Under the law, a carbon monoxide device is ?designed to detect carbon monoxide and produce a distinct audible alarm.?  It can be battery powered, a plug-in device with battery backup, or a device installed as recommended by Standard 720 of the National Fire Protection Association that is either wired into the alternating current power line of the dwelling unit with a secondary battery backup or connected to a system via a panel.

If the carbon monoxide device is combined with a smoke detector, it must emit an alarm or voice warning in a manner that clearly differentiates between a carbon monoxide alarm warning and a smoke detector warning.
The carbon monoxide device must have been tested and certified pursuant to the requirements of the American National standards Institute (ANSI) and Underwriters Laboratories Inc. (UL) as set forth in either ANSI/UL 2034 or ANSI/UL 2075, or successor standards, by a nationally recognized testing laboratory listed in the directory of approved testing laboratories established by the Building Materials Listing Program of the Fire Engineering Division of the Office of the State Fire Marshal of the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

(Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 13262.)

Q 4.  How does a homeowner comply with this law?

A  Every owner of a ?dwelling unit intended for human occupancy? must install an approved carbon monoxide device in each existing dwelling unit having a fossil fuel burning heater or appliance, fireplace, or an attached garage.

The applicable time periods are as follows:

(1) For all existing single-family dwelling units on or before July 1, 2011.


(2) For all other existing dwelling units on or before Jan. 1, 2013.

(Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926(a).)

Q 5.  How many devices and where do I place them in the home?

A  This new law requires the owner ?to install the devices in a manner consistent with building standards applicable to new construction for the relevant type of occupancy or with the manufacturer?s instructions, if it is technically feasible to do so? (Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926(b)).

The following language comes packaged with carbon monoxide (CO) detectors:

For minimum security, a CO Alarm should be centrally located outside of each separate sleeping area in the immediate vicinity of the bedrooms.  The Alarm should be located at least 6 inches (152mm) from all exterior walls and at least 3 feet (0.9 meters) from supply or return vents.

Building standards applicable to new construction are as follows (overview summary only):

? Section R315 et seq. of the 2010 edition California Residential Code (CRC) [effective Jan. 1, 2011] (applicable to new one-to-two family dwellings and townhouses not more than 3 stories and also where work requiring a permit for alterations, repairs or additions exceeding one thousand dollars in existing dwellings units):

Installed outside of each separate sleeping area in the immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) in dwelling units and on every level including basements within which fuel-fired appliances are installed and in dwelling units that have attached garages.

? Section 420 et seq of the 2010 edition California Building Code (CBC) [effective Jan. 1, 2011] (applicable to other new dwelling units and also where a permit is required for alterations, repairs or additions exceeding $1,000 in existing dwelling units):

Installed outside of each separate sleeping area in the immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) in dwelling units and on every level including basements within which fuel-fired appliances are installed and in dwelling units that have attached garages.

Q 6.  Are there any penalties for noncompliance with this law regarding installation of carbon monoxide detector devices?

A  Yes. A violation is an infraction punishable by a maximum fine of $200 for each offense. However, a property owner must receive a 30-day notice to correct first.  If an owner who receives such a notice fails to correct the problem within the 30-day period, then the owner may be assessed the fine. (Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926(c).)

Q 7.  Can a buyer of a ?dwelling unit intended for human occupancy? rescind the sale if the dwelling doesn?t have the necessary carbon monoxide detectors?

A  No.  However, the buyer may be entitled to an award of actual damages not to exceed $100 plus court costs and attorney?s fees.  (Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926(d).)

Note the following language in the TDS and MHTDS:

Installation of a listed appliance, device, or amenity is not a precondition of sale or transfer of the dwelling. The carbon monoxide device, garage door opener, or child-resistant pool barrier may not be in compliance with the safety standards relating to, respectively, carbon monoxide device standards of Chapter 8 (commencing with Section 13260) of Part 2 of Division 12 of, automatic reversing device standards of Chapter 12.5 (commencing with Section 19890) of Part 3 of Division 13 of, or the pool safety standards of Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 115920) of Chapter 5 of Part 10 of Division 104 of, the Health and Safety Code. Window security bars may not have quick-release mechanisms in compliance with the 1995 edition of the California Building Standards Code.

Q 8.  Does a seller have any special carbon monoxide disclosure obligations?

A  No.  The only disclosure obligations are satisfied when providing a buyer with the TDS or the MHTDS.  If the seller is exempt from giving a TDS, the law doesn?t require any specific disclosures regarding carbon monoxide detector devices.  (See Cal. Civ. Code ?? 1102.6, 1102.6d.)

The Homeowners? Guide to Environmental Hazards also will include information regarding carbon monoxide.

Q 9.  May local municipalities require more stringent standards for carbon monoxide detectors?

A  Yes (Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926(e)).

Q 10.  Do landlords have any special obligations regarding carbon monoxide detectors?

A  Yes.  All landlords of dwelling units must install carbon monoxide detectors as indicated in Question 4.
  The law gives a landlord authority to enter the dwelling unit for the purpose of installing, repairing, testing, and maintaining carbon monoxide devices ?pursuant to the authority and requirements of Section 1954 of the Civil Code [entry by landlord].?

The carbon monoxide device must be operable at the time that a tenant takes possession.  However, the tenant has the responsibility of notifying the owner or owner?s agent if the tenant becomes aware of an inoperable or deficient carbon monoxide device.  The landlord is not in violation of the law for a deficient or inoperable carbon monoxide device if he or she has not received notice of the problem from the tenant.

(Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926.1.)

Q 11.  If the California Building Standards Commission adopts or updates building standards relating to carbon monoxide devices in the future, is the owner required to install the newer device?

A  It depends.  Yes, when the owner makes an application for a permit for alterations, repairs, or additions to that dwelling unit with the cost exceeding $1,000.  (Cal. Health & Safety Code ? 17926.2(b).)
 
Thanks for bringing it up! I'd guess no more than 5 Realtors in the County know about this.

SGIP
 
sgip said:
Thanks for bringing it up! I'd guess no more than 5 Realtors in the County know about this.

SGIP

Everyone will know soon enough... the TDS (transfer disclosure statement) is going to be changed.
 
I have put plug in carbon monoxide detectors in my house the past 10 years.  I had it actually go off once and aired out my house just in case.
 
Should I go buy stock in a CO detector company?

I'll probably have to buy a bunch of those plug-in ones as I hate the ceiling smoke detector type (there was a funny episode on Modern Family recently where the dad was going around the house trying to figure out which one was doing the low-battery beep).
 
Hello all,

I am organizing a list of interested parties and would like to try to work to get a group discount for the purchases of the carbon monoxide detectors and for installation service costs. If you are interested, please let me know and I will be able to get a bid from some of my contacts to get us a good value.

Please respond by 12/31/2010 with the total number of CO monitors you will need to scott.gunther@camoves.com.
Once I have a rough estimate on how much the unit cost will be, I will send a follow-up email.
(and as always, I promise not to spam you).

Thank you for the opportunity to be of service.
-Scott (IR2)
 
From what I recall reading, CO2 is a low lying gas so a ceiling detector (especially on the second floor) will not give you as early a warning as a detector near the floor such as a wall plug.  I may be wrong but that is what I remember.
 
The lowest price I could find for the AC plug-in type was about $18.36 per unit.

Will the built-in contractor cost be less? And could they upgrade your current smoke ones with the combo smoke/CO detectors?
 
we have a plug in that cost about $25-$30 that we got from Target. Are the installed ones much better?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
The lowest price I could find for the AC plug-in type was about $18.36 per unit.

Will the built-in contractor cost be less? And could they upgrade your current smoke ones with the combo smoke/CO detectors?


you wouldn't want a combo one.  the smoke one should be high up near the ceiling, while the CO2 one should be low near the floor.  otherwise, you are not going to get adequate warning for these hazards.

 
Ahh... so like davenlei was saying, based on location, the plug-in ones are better.

What they should do is make plug-in ones with a nightlight feature.

 
I thought we are discussing CO instead of CO2, and since CO is lighter than air so a combo detector (smoke+CO) should work better?
 
Well, I did some more research, and Kiwi is kinda right.

CO is nearly the same density as air, so you can install them anywhere, high or low. 

But the articles all say that each device is different, and have individual placement recommendations.  The ones that I have seen were all at outlet levels (plugins), since the detectors use more energy than smoke alarms (more chirps!).  They also have a shorter half-life, so while you can buy combo detectors, you will be replacing them more quickly than the smoke end of separates.  you can also get hardwired ones (but again, 3-5 year lifespan)
 
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