Man Jumps To His Death From Helicopter Near Balboa Pier

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socal78

socal78

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And of course I read this in a British paper.

So, get this. He bought a romantic helicopter ride for 2 along the coast. The chopper is actually owned by Chuck Street - it was his son flying it. The guy showed up alone yesterday (Tuesday) afternoon for this "romantic ride". He got up and went to get out of it but not before a struggle with the pilot. He fell hundreds of feet down, splashing into the water next to that Ruby's on the end of the pier. A waiter there witnessed it. He was pulled out of the water by lifeguards. He was unconscious and taken to a hospital where he later died.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...McFadden-jumped-death-helicopter-suicide.html
 
Why would a gun on social security schedule an fairly expensive copter ride? Of course, he had mental issues on the top of his situation, so committing suicide was his way out.
 
The article was updated after I posted it. His brother said the man had a chronic health problem which was causing him a lot of pain and lost sleep. He was unable to get surgery to fix the problem. He was on Soc Sec & disability. The surgery kept being continually delayed and cancelled. The brother believes he just couldn't take it anymore so he decided to take matters into his own hands.
 
SoCal said:
The article was updated after I posted it. His brother said the man had a chronic health problem which was causing him a lot of pain and lost sleep. He was unable to get surgery to fix the problem. He was on Soc Sec & disability. The surgery kept being continually delayed and cancelled. The brother believes he just couldn't take it anymore so he decided to take matters into his own hands.
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This is why i believe a death pill should be legalized. there are probably many other like this suffering. It would be nice to walk into a drs offce and call it a day or life.
 
qwerty said:
SoCal said:
The article was updated after I posted it. His brother said the man had a chronic health problem which was causing him a lot of pain and lost sleep. He was unable to get surgery to fix the problem. He was on Soc Sec & disability. The surgery kept being continually delayed and cancelled. The brother believes he just couldn't take it anymore so he decided to take matters into his own hands.
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This is why i believe a death pill should be legalized. there are probably many other like this suffering. It would be nice to walk into a drs offce and call it a day or life.
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Really, because your surgery for a relatively straight forward GERD correction has been postponed?  Isn't the real problem, the GERD surgery shouldn't get postponed?
 
nosuchreality said:
qwerty said:
SoCal said:
The article was updated after I posted it. His brother said the man had a chronic health problem which was causing him a lot of pain and lost sleep. He was unable to get surgery to fix the problem. He was on Soc Sec & disability. The surgery kept being continually delayed and cancelled. The brother believes he just couldn't take it anymore so he decided to take matters into his own hands.
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This is why i believe a death pill should be legalized. there are probably many other like this suffering. It would be nice to walk into a drs offce and call it a day or life.
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Really, because your surgery for a relatively straight forward GERD correction has been postponed?  Isn't the real problem, the GERD surgery shouldn't get postponed?
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yeah really. there should be a legal way to end your life vs blowing your brains out. or jumping in front of train.  look at all the old ass people driving up healthcare costs cause they are put through all of these expensive procedures and for what? to extend your pain in suffering in the shittiest years of your life? in 39 years by the time im 75 hopeufully society has smartened up to allow a death pill (or call it whatever you want).
 
qwerty said:
nosuchreality said:
qwerty said:
SoCal said:
The article was updated after I posted it. His brother said the man had a chronic health problem which was causing him a lot of pain and lost sleep. He was unable to get surgery to fix the problem. He was on Soc Sec & disability. The surgery kept being continually delayed and cancelled. The brother believes he just couldn't take it anymore so he decided to take matters into his own hands.
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This is why i believe a death pill should be legalized. there are probably many other like this suffering. It would be nice to walk into a drs offce and call it a day or life.
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Really, because your surgery for a relatively straight forward GERD correction has been postponed?  Isn't the real problem, the GERD surgery shouldn't get postponed?
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yeah really. there should be a legal way to end your life vs blowing your brains out. or jumping in front of train.  look at all the old ass people driving up healthcare costs cause they are put through all of these expensive procedures and for what? to extend your pain in suffering in the shittiest years of your life? in 39 years by the time im 75 hopeufully society has smartened up to allow a death pill (or call it whatever you want).
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That would solve our food problems...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOV8mBjHHYg
 
I just never understand why some people choose to end their lives in a way that could potentially hurt, kill, or traumatize innocent bystanders. Mr. SoCal suggested to me that this guy was probably aiming for the pier but missed. I was surprised he said that but I think he might be right about that since he was so close and this was during business hours, afterall. Even if he wasn't, he did this in the middle of the day on a populated beach where there were lots of witnesses. If I was going to kill myself, I would NEVER want to hurt / accidentally kill somebody else or cause them mental anguish from having to witness it. Like those people who jump off freeway bridges into oncoming traffic... why?!... those poor people driving the cars below. *Smh*
 
I bet you don't consider suicide too. Someone who set his mind on ending his life, doesn't much care about anything else, like relatives, bystanders, someone's liability, etc. He just wants to end it. He already set his mind.
 
adventurous said:
I bet you don't consider suicide too. Someone who set his mind on ending his life, doesn't much care about anything else, like relatives, bystanders, someone's liability, etc. He just wants to end it. He already set his mind.
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Huh? Hasn't every person on the planet thought about how they would do it? I think so, absolutely.

I read something once that said women typically do the "quieter" suicides like: sleeping pills, slitting wrists, etc. It said men typically do the more violent acts: blowing one's brains out, hanging, throwing self in front of a train, etc. Seems to be mostly true. I guess I'm typical in that I would pick a "polite" suicide. (I am NOT suicidal) although if I was intent on it, I have decided to keep the car running in the garage with the door closed / do exhaust inhalation when everybody is away and leave a note on the door, warning the person who enters what to be prepared for. I told Mr. SoCal about it. He said my plan would never work because of the vents garages have nowadays. I hadn't considered it. (We had a good laugh about that.) I guess that's why people use hoses / suck on the exhaust.
 
SoCal said:
adventurous said:
I bet you don't consider suicide too. Someone who set his mind on ending his life, doesn't much care about anything else, like relatives, bystanders, someone's liability, etc. He just wants to end it. He already set his mind.
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Huh? Hasn't every person on the planet thought about how they would do it? I think so, absolutely.

I read something once that said women typically do the "quieter" suicides like: sleeping pills, slitting wrists, etc. It said men typically do the more violent acts: blowing one's brains out, hanging, throwing self in front of a train, etc. Seems to be mostly true. I guess I'm typical in that I would pick a "polite" suicide. (I am NOT suicidal) although if I was intent on it, I have decided to keep the car running in the garage with the door closed / do exhaust inhalation when everybody is away and leave a note on the door, warning the person who enters what to be prepared for. I told Mr. SoCal about it. He said my plan would never work because of the vents garages have nowadays. I hadn't considered it. (We had a good laugh about that.) I guess that's why people use hoses / suck on the exhaust.
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thinking about how you would end your life and having your life be so shitty that you are really serious about it are two different things.
 
qwerty said:
thinking about how you would end your life and having your life be so shitty that you are really serious about it are two different things.
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Can't a person be serious about it without the reckless risk of dragging other unwilling people to the grave with him/her? In this article, the man's health deterioration was a process, not a spontaneous event. His suicide also looks planned as he bought tickets for two but showed up solo. He had time to think about this. My thoughts are with the pilot, who will never forget this day.
 
SoCal said:
qwerty said:
thinking about how you would end your life and having your life be so shitty that you are really serious about it are two different things.
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Can't a person be serious about it without the reckless risk of dragging other unwilling people to the grave with him/her? In this article, the man's health deterioration was a process, not a spontaneous event. His suicide also looks planned as he bought tickets for two but showed up solo. He had time to think about this. My thoughts are with the pilot, who will never forget this day.
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adventurous' point was that if it gets to the point of you really considering ending your life you are probably not in the right frame of mind to really care about what the consequences to others are. probably right.
 
SoCal said:
qwerty said:
thinking about how you would end your life and having your life be so shitty that you are really serious about it are two different things.
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Can't a person be serious about it without the reckless risk of dragging other unwilling people to the grave with him/her? In this article, the man's health deterioration was a process, not a spontaneous event. His suicide also looks planned as he bought tickets for two but showed up solo. He had time to think about this. My thoughts are with the pilot, who will never forget this day.
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Presumably, he was in pain for long time. He must have hated the world for inability to help him. He must have hated your smiling face, when he saw you on the street. He must have hated everyone. Being in such condition, do you think he cared about what would happen after he commits suicide?
 
adventurous said:
Being in such condition, do you think he cared about what would happen after he commits suicide?
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Well, why are you asking me since apparently you know my personal life and can read my thoughts?? (http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11018.msg211820.html#msg211820) 

Unfortunately, I've known quite a few people who have taken their lives (only one of them violently, unrelated to the following). My parents have lived in a retirement community (ages 45+) for 14 years. There are a lot of ailing people in it who have lost all hope. The popular trend there is that when they are ready, they stop taking any food or drink until they die. To answer the question, yeah, I think there are people out there who still have the humanity to care about others despite being in physical pain themselves and ready to move on. I've met them. It is not out of the question.
 
qwerty said:
SoCal said:
The popular trend there is that when they are ready, they stop taking any food or drink until they die.
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i somewhat doubt that this stop eating/drinking is a trend. its kind of hard to accomplish. this guy tried it.  he was upset that doctors would not allow him to end his life in a painless, peaceful, dignified death.
http://www.compassionandchoices.org/tag/voluntarily-stopping-eating-and-drinking/
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I didn't say it was quick or comfortable. I said that's what the residents in their community have been doing. I was just answering Adventurous's question to me.

The man in the article that tried it (while checking himself into a medical center, not staying at home like the ones I'm talking about) says, "he still sees starving himself as the most practical way to end his life..." The gerontologist featured in the article said his father passed away by the same means. So, I'm not sure where this is really going (but I'm not asking). I'm okay with letting this thread suffer the same fate.
 
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