Ladera Ranch - Power Lines???

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<p>I was out checking out some homes on the market in Ladera this weekend, and I noticed the massive amount of what APPEAR to be high tension power lines everywhere! How did I miss this before?</p>

<p>Is it me or is Ladera constructed ghetto-style with tons of cancer-cluster-causing powerlines running all over the place???</p>

<p>I'm amazed no one has brought this up previously... who in gods name would want to live there? The same people praying for a mutation or what???</p>

<p>This area reminds me of compton.</p>
 
<p>Like this?</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.ziprealty.com/images_mls/SOCALMLS/S/46/15/25/_P/S461525_P20.jpg" /></p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.ziprealty.com/images_mls/SOCALMLS/S/47/46/99/_P/S474699_P18.jpg" /></p>

<p> It seems that for every study which "conclusively" links power lines to health issues, there's another study which "conclusively" refutes it.</p>

<p>Me? I'd buy next to power lines if it were cheap enough. I'd enjoy the permanent buffer zone out back. </p>
 
<p>I am not a Ladera apologist or promoter.</p>

<p>Are there many not attractive powerlines? Yes.</p>

<p>Is there any real simliarity to Compton? No.</p>

<p>SCHB</p>
 
Irvine has pretty good setbacks from these power lines. I toured a project in Fresno that had massive power poles in street islands and a 5' setback from the power line to the front of the house. If you stood on the front porch, the power line was over your head. You could hear a loud humming sound all the time. It will be interesting to see the cancer rates out of these communities in 20 years.
 
<p>SCHB is quite right. I worked in Compton for a couple of years. </p>

<p>This is what's missing.....the numerous pairs of sneakers dangling from the wires. ;)</p>
 
Down and to the left in the first picture you will find the sneakers hanging on the lines. You have to be smoking crack to buy an $800k condo with $700 HOA and 1.8% property taxes. It is the only possible explanation as there is not enough Kool-Aid in the county to justify that.
 
There are many conflicting studies on the effects of living near high voltage power lines. Personally, I'm inclined to believe that there is no conclusive, scientific data to support the claim that high voltage power lines cause cancer. However that doesn't mean they won't cause other health problems, not to mention the eye-sore you must endure daily.





If Ladera Ranch residents were given the option to join Lake MV association, I might consider buying there. But no, it's not going to happen.





I know several coworkers who bought homes in Ladera Ranch, you got more house for less $ versus Irvine there, just like going out to RSM.



 
There are power lines all over irvine too. You just can't see it since they are buried. It costs a lot more to bury those lines than just leave it on that ugly tower. If you go to the Convenient Hills track of Ladera (gated with $400 / month of association fees), many of the lower end houses are relatively close to those power lines



I know many people love Ladera. However, I just don't see the attraction. When folks talk about Ladera, first thing come out their mouth is "kids friendly" with parks, etc. Well, I lived in LR( I can’t stand it, and moved out), and I can tell you from my own experiences, that many Irvine communities are equally "kids friendly – i.e. Quail Hills, Woodbury, etc. There are as many pools and play structures in Woodbury as in Ladera Ranch. Ladera does have a water park, but it is always so crowed, and there is only enough parking spot for about 30 to 50 cars. Most of the time, you have to walk a long way carrying your kids and stuff. I went there couple times, and decided it is not worth it.



The biggest draw back for me is its location. It is about four miles from I-5. CrownValley is always jammed weekend or weekdays. They are adding a lane, but I don’t see a big dramatic improvement, and more oso traffic will come to CV once the CV is widened by one lane. Also, I-5’s jam starts at El Toro.



LR has no good place to eat except one place. You have to either go to LN / AV / RSM to get “real food”.



Also, Ladera Ranch Community association charges ¼% of so called community improvement fee when you buy a house. I think that is ridiculous. For a million dollar home, you have to pay $2500 to the association on top of the monthly fee.
 
<p>We noticed the power lines the first time we checked out Ladera Ranch. We haven't gone back. I won't consider buying a house near power lines due to health concerns - even if it was at a discounted price. You can't put a price on health.</p>

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I think they are figuring that out in Ladera. I am seeing 2004 prices all around there. It should get really interesting when the banks take back the homes of some the unemployed mortgage guys I know of in Covenant Hills.
 
<p>There are many Range Rovers in Ladera & convenant Hills. According to one of the mortgage broker I know well who does a lot of business there, many of those "appeared to be riches" have min. savings, and in need of refinancing to get out their min. / no down teaser rate loans. Graphrix, you are right: there are many mortgage and real estate guys living in Convenant Hills. I didn't realize how many flippers out there just in Convenant hills until recently.</p>
 
<p>I had the same "high tension line" concern about VoC and the lines running along Harvard/Barranca. So, I actually contacted (via email) the head research person at So Cal Edison that handles electromagnetic field monitoring, etc. and asked a series of specific questions about the levels of electricity going throught the lines, the electomagnetic field intensities, when the lines were to be burried, etc. I asked for a response via email. What was the response? "Can I call you to discuss this?"</p>

<p>As an attorney, I interpreted the reply in the following way: "I really need to cover my ass, so I am not going to put anything in writing because the last thing I need is you suing me 10 years from now and using my written response against me."</p>

<p>Needless to say, I did not buy in VoC (although I really liked the Cantara model 3B for 950K). The bottom line for me? If they will not put it in writing, it means that they have doubts. If they have doubts, I have no interest in taking a chance. I guess the whole thing makes my think about asbetos litigation, radon litigation, lead paint, tobacco, etc.</p>

<p>As for the cancer issue, some of the studies that I have seen "suggest" that relationship may exist between certain types of infant/child related blood cancers - but I am not a scientist and can only relate the items that I have read (many of which apper to be European and Canadian studies). What is interesting however, was a study by the State of CA scientists that seemed to find it reasonable to expect a relationship between illnesses and the powerlines (a claim refuted vigourously by the federal EPA).</p>

<p>Who can you believe these days?</p>
 
<p><em>"Who can you believe these days?"</em></p>

<p>No one. Studies change by the day. There are other houses to live in, so why take the chance. You couldn't pay me to live near powerlines. </p>

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<p>If you really want to know how strong the EMF is, you can call Edision, and they might still be willing to send someone to measure it for you. I did that seven years ago on my first purchase since there was a power line not too too far away from my backyard - maybe about 1000 feet. Their meter will show you when the EMF drops to a very low level. When the thing is right under the power line, the meter goes crazy...but when you go out about 4 or 5 home length, it drops off dramatically...then when you go out about 10 homes, it drops down to very very low level. That towwer next to me is more like a telephone pole than a power. So it all depends. That meter actually plots the EMF strength curve while the guys walked down the street. </p>

<p>Also, don't be fooled by the buried ones...they generate same amount of EMF if not more ? ( since they are not buried 50 feet inside the ground). </p>
 
<em>"Also, don't be fooled by the buried ones...they generate same amount of EMF if not more ? ( since they are not buried 50 feet inside the ground)." </em>
 
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