LA Mormon Temple Closed After Suspicious Envelope Arrives in Mail

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Like most things of this sort, I'm sure it won't turn out to be anthrax or any other type of CBRN material. And it will be difficult to catch the scumbag who sent it. But the timing and recipient make the motivation of the sender obvious.



OK, now it's time for all of the apologists to say that there is no proof this is related to Proposition 8....
 
I think it's equally likely for a Mormon church member to have to done to make themselves seem persecuted as it is for random crank or No on 8 supporter to have done it.
 
Uhh have you ever talked to a person who left the Mormon Church? Especially one who was a fairly wealthy supporter? It might be a bit of an eye opener. My mother in law was an ex member and when she married the man she loved (for 36 years) they shunned her, slit her tires, would go around to her jobs and slander her and just made her life hell until she moved away. One of them even came to her house (many, MANY years later...) and FORCED his way into the house quoting from the book of mormon. I was about 1/2 a second from pummeling this idiot with a bean bag load from the shotgun. Thankfully he left when the DOGS came out from the back....



You make up your own mind... at least that right hasn't been taken away.



-bix
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226705726]I think it's equally likely for a Mormon church member to have to done to make themselves seem persecuted as it is for random crank or No on 8 supporter to have done it.</blockquote>


Why would you say it's equally likely for a Mormon to send it as a Prop 8 supporter?



It seems that you are either misjudging human psychology, or basic probability.
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226746647]For the same reason that I watched the up roar over the hate crime in Claremont only to have it come out that the psychology professor is the one that did it to herself. Or any of the many other hate crime hoaxes. Which, is a real crime in my opinion and unfortunately, minimizes the real hate crimes.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn</blockquote>


So, do you think that <a href="http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/11/13/publicsafety/blr-suspicious12.txt">this radio station mailed a threat to itself to garner sympathy too?</a>
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1226751228][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226746647]For the same reason that I watched the up roar over the hate crime in Claremont only to have it come out that the psychology professor is the one that did it to herself. Or any of the many other hate crime hoaxes. Which, is a real crime in my opinion and unfortunately, minimizes the real hate crimes.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn</blockquote>


So, do you think that <a href="http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/11/13/publicsafety/blr-suspicious12.txt">this radio station mailed a threat to itself to garner sympathy too?</a></blockquote>


Corporate entities don't have as much to gain as deviant religious groups playing the persecution card.
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226757236][quote author="WINEX" date=1226751228][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226746647]For the same reason that I watched the up roar over the hate crime in Claremont only to have it come out that the psychology professor is the one that did it to herself. Or any of the many other hate crime hoaxes. Which, is a real crime in my opinion and unfortunately, minimizes the real hate crimes.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn</blockquote>


So, do you think that <a href="http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/11/13/publicsafety/blr-suspicious12.txt">this radio station mailed a threat to itself to garner sympathy too?</a></blockquote>


Corporate entities don't have as much to gain as deviant religious groups playing the persecution card.</blockquote>


So you acknowledge that deviant opponents of Proposition 8 committed this terrorist act?
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1226758263][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226757236][quote author="WINEX" date=1226751228][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226746647]For the same reason that I watched the up roar over the hate crime in Claremont only to have it come out that the psychology professor is the one that did it to herself. Or any of the many other hate crime hoaxes. Which, is a real crime in my opinion and unfortunately, minimizes the real hate crimes.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn</blockquote>


So, do you think that <a href="http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/11/13/publicsafety/blr-suspicious12.txt">this radio station mailed a threat to itself to garner sympathy too?</a></blockquote>


Corporate entities don't have as much to gain as deviant religious groups playing the persecution card.</blockquote>


So you acknowledge that deviant opponents of Proposition 8 committed this terrorist act?</blockquote>


Are you admitting you did it to garner sympathy for the Pro 8 crowd?
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226758478][quote author="WINEX" date=1226758263][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226757236][quote author="WINEX" date=1226751228][quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226746647]For the same reason that I watched the up roar over the hate crime in Claremont only to have it come out that the psychology professor is the one that did it to herself. Or any of the many other hate crime hoaxes. Which, is a real crime in my opinion and unfortunately, minimizes the real hate crimes.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn</blockquote>


So, do you think that <a href="http://www.burbankleader.com/articles/2008/11/13/publicsafety/blr-suspicious12.txt">this radio station mailed a threat to itself to garner sympathy too?</a></blockquote>


Corporate entities don't have as much to gain as deviant religious groups playing the persecution card.</blockquote>


So you acknowledge that deviant opponents of Proposition 8 committed this terrorist act?</blockquote>


Are you admitting you did it to garner sympathy for the Pro 8 crowd?</blockquote>


My, what a stupid thing to say...
 
No, stupid is all the stuff you've posted for the last three months.



It's sad you cannot understand the basics behind hoaxes.



Since you choose to pretend to be completely daft, let me spell it out for you.



The church is the one with the most to gain from this event occuring.
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226759029]No, stupid is all the stuff you've posted for the last three months.



It's sad you cannot understand the basics behind hoaxes.



Since you choose to pretend to be completely daft, let me spell it out for you.



The church is the one with the most to gain from this event occuring.</blockquote>


Wait... so is WINEX a hoax or not? I thought he was...
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226759029]No, stupid is all the stuff you've posted for the last three months.



It's sad you cannot understand the basics behind hoaxes.



Since you choose to pretend to be completely daft, let me spell it out for you.



The church is the one with the most to gain from this event occuring.</blockquote>


This is really saying a lot, but you are actually dumber than I thought you were.
 
Yes, it does say a lot. You grasp at straws and imply that the letter is representative of core Prop 8 opponents. It isn't.



The simple fact is the letter is likely from a crank using the prop 8 debate as an excuse. The 2nd most likely, is a Church supporter trying to garner sympathy.



And let me spell out what I'm saying a lot about.



Just how little I think of your opinion. You see how idiotic the same non sequiturs are when lobbed back at you.
 
[quote author="No_Such_Reality" date=1226796001]Yes, it does say a lot. You grasp at straws and imply that the letter is representative of core Prop 8 opponents. It isn't.



The simple fact is the letter is likely from a crank using the prop 8 debate as an excuse. The 2nd most likely, is a Church supporter trying to garner sympathy.



And let me spell out what I'm saying a lot about.



Just how little I think of your opinion. You see how idiotic the same non sequiturs are when lobbed back at you.</blockquote>


LOL!



Most rational people would think that claiming the church is attacking itself and radio stations for sympathy is grasping at straws.



And any intelligent person would realize that the people of California have spoken twice within the past 10 years and clearly said that they don't support the moral decay of society that would be ushered in through recognizing gay marriage.



I guess your viewpoint proves that you are neither rational nor intelligent.
 
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