ps99472
New member
Here's the link for Measure E results
https://www.ocvote.com/fileadmin/live/pri2016/results.htm#c-747
https://www.ocvote.com/fileadmin/live/pri2016/results.htm#c-747
June 7 Primary
- Thread starter ps99472
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This is what happens when you give huge amounts of bond funds to the bureaucracy....waste. I always vote NO
Half-Billion Dollar Schools Can?t Fix American Education
At $578 million, the Robert F. Kennedy School in Los Angeles is the most expensive public school ever built in America. It features a high-tech swimming pool, a chic auditorium, vaulted ceilings, luxury amenities and a design aesthetic worthy of a spread in Architectural Digest. ABC News reports that the school is more expensive than the ?Bird?s Nest? stadium in Beijing, China, built for the 2008 Olympics, and the Wall Street Journal notes that it cost more than L.A.?s Staples sports center.
And while a half-billion dollar public school complex would be jarring enough to taxpayers during plush budget times, this public school was constructed at a time when the district faces a $640 million deficit. It?s a red carpet reminder of why California ? and so many other states ? face severe budget shortfalls.
http://dailysignal.com/2010/09/10/morning-bell-half-billion-dollar-schools-cant-fix-american-education/
LOL. Are you saying that the IUSD is "persistently lowest-achieving"!?!?? Those are schools that get federal grants, but with tons of strings attached. Grants are out of the question for schools that are high achievers. Same has happened in other cities with good schools that were getting old (beach cities in the South Bay for example).
Most grants that I am aware of are for schools that are performing well below the mean. Among those, preference is usually given to those that have the highest chance of improvement. In many cases, the entire school administration gets flushed in the process as well. I'd find it almost impossible for a high performing school to compete for such funding.
Thus you see all these Measures where good (but older) schools ask for bonds to fund infrastructure improvements. You can blame Prop 13 for this.
This is simple to find out. My brief (2 minute) research, Tustin Unified School District for the fiscal year ended 6/30/15. [this is public knowledge] Check out the Federal programs they have. We can only see the amount expended.
There is a federal website harvestor.census.gov which you can see the detail of the single audit such as general info, federal awards, audit findings, and other tabs. The juicy part is the audit findings tab, which shows the compliance findings and internal control findings.
#unbelievable
Not quite sure what it is you are getting at or how these federal funds would be eligible for infrastructure improvements. I see a list of federal grants that were spent, most of which are either for subsidized meals, NCLB and individuals with disabilities education act. None of these funds can be used for things like upgrading the HVAC system at Irvine High School, for example. An option is to ask for residents to pony up the money instead, which they approved.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
NO on E!
momopi
Well-known member
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07...super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/
"This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary: The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identities the media organization ? incredibly ? conceals. The decisive edifice of superdelegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it?s only fitting that its nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward, and undemocratic sputter."
"That the Democratic Party nominating process is declared to be over in such an uninspiring, secretive, and elite-driven manner is perfectly symbolic of what the party, and its likely nominee, actually is. The one positive aspect, though significant, is symbolic, while the actual substance ? rallying behind a Wall Street-funded, status quo-perpetuating, multimillionaire militarist ? is grim in the extreme. The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved."
"This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary: The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identities the media organization ? incredibly ? conceals. The decisive edifice of superdelegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it?s only fitting that its nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward, and undemocratic sputter."
"That the Democratic Party nominating process is declared to be over in such an uninspiring, secretive, and elite-driven manner is perfectly symbolic of what the party, and its likely nominee, actually is. The one positive aspect, though significant, is symbolic, while the actual substance ? rallying behind a Wall Street-funded, status quo-perpetuating, multimillionaire militarist ? is grim in the extreme. The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved."
momopi
Well-known member
On that note...
He who bends with the wind from the right, going from #NeverTrump to ?: (1)
She who bends with the wind from the left, going from Clinton critic to aligning with Hillary: (2)
(1) http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/rubio-offers-to-speak-for-trump-at-convention.html
(2) http://elizabethwarren.com/issues/foreign-policy
He who bends with the wind from the right, going from #NeverTrump to ?: (1)
She who bends with the wind from the left, going from Clinton critic to aligning with Hillary: (2)
(1) http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/rubio-offers-to-speak-for-trump-at-convention.html
(2) http://elizabethwarren.com/issues/foreign-policy
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
Bonds "taxes" should really be 2/3 majority... people are too misinformed otherwise.
morekaos
Well-known member
peppy said:
This is what happens when you give huge amounts of bond funds to the bureaucracy....waste. I always vote NO
Half-Billion Dollar Schools Can?t Fix American Education
At $578 million, the Robert F. Kennedy School in Los Angeles is the most expensive public school ever built in America. It features a high-tech swimming pool, a chic auditorium, vaulted ceilings, luxury amenities and a design aesthetic worthy of a spread in Architectural Digest. ABC News reports that the school is more expensive than the ?Bird?s Nest? stadium in Beijing, China, built for the 2008 Olympics, and the Wall Street Journal notes that it cost more than L.A.?s Staples sports center.
And while a half-billion dollar public school complex would be jarring enough to taxpayers during plush budget times, this public school was constructed at a time when the district faces a $640 million deficit. It?s a red carpet reminder of why California ? and so many other states ? face severe budget shortfalls.
http://dailysignal.com/2010/09/10/morning-bell-half-billion-dollar-schools-cant-fix-american-education/
eyephone said:
LOL. Are you saying that the IUSD is "persistently lowest-achieving"!?!?? Those are schools that get federal grants, but with tons of strings attached. Grants are out of the question for schools that are high achievers. Same has happened in other cities with good schools that were getting old (beach cities in the South Bay for example).
eyephone said:
Most grants that I am aware of are for schools that are performing well below the mean. Among those, preference is usually given to those that have the highest chance of improvement. In many cases, the entire school administration gets flushed in the process as well. I'd find it almost impossible for a high performing school to compete for such funding.
Thus you see all these Measures where good (but older) schools ask for bonds to fund infrastructure improvements. You can blame Prop 13 for this.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
I couldn't even vote on Measure E anyways:
Blah blah blah... so if we have a rental in one of those districts, where will we see this extra "bond" tax... I assume on our property tax bill?
Blah blah blah... so if we have a rental in one of those districts, where will we see this extra "bond" tax... I assume on our property tax bill?
peppy said:eyephone said:
Most grants that I am aware of are for schools that are performing well below the mean. Among those, preference is usually given to those that have the highest chance of improvement. In many cases, the entire school administration gets flushed in the process as well. I'd find it almost impossible for a high performing school to compete for such funding.
Thus you see all these Measures where good (but older) schools ask for bonds to fund infrastructure improvements. You can blame Prop 13 for this.
This is simple to find out. My brief (2 minute) research, Tustin Unified School District for the fiscal year ended 6/30/15. [this is public knowledge] Check out the Federal programs they have. We can only see the amount expended.
There is a federal website harvestor.census.gov which you can see the detail of the single audit such as general info, federal awards, audit findings, and other tabs. The juicy part is the audit findings tab, which shows the compliance findings and internal control findings.
#unbelievable
eyephone said:peppy said:eyephone said:
Most grants that I am aware of are for schools that are performing well below the mean. Among those, preference is usually given to those that have the highest chance of improvement. In many cases, the entire school administration gets flushed in the process as well. I'd find it almost impossible for a high performing school to compete for such funding.
Thus you see all these Measures where good (but older) schools ask for bonds to fund infrastructure improvements. You can blame Prop 13 for this.
This is simple to find out. My brief (2 minute) research, Tustin Unified School District for the fiscal year ended 6/30/15. [this is public knowledge] Check out the Federal programs they have. We can only see the amount expended.
There is a federal website harvestor.census.gov which you can see the detail of the single audit such as general info, federal awards, audit findings, and other tabs. The juicy part is the audit findings tab, which shows the compliance findings and internal control findings.
#unbelievable
Not quite sure what it is you are getting at or how these federal funds would be eligible for infrastructure improvements. I see a list of federal grants that were spent, most of which are either for subsidized meals, NCLB and individuals with disabilities education act. None of these funds can be used for things like upgrading the HVAC system at Irvine High School, for example. An option is to ask for residents to pony up the money instead, which they approved.
Kangen.Irvine
Active member
It's time for IUSD to switch to becoming a basic aid school district. This means property tax revenues already received, not an additional tax like Measure E, will fund education within the district boundaries. Property tax revenue is pretty high in the city and very little actually returns back to our city. We are basically supporting lower value areas throughout the state. Local examples would include Laguna Beach and Newport Mesa. Yes, Laguna Beach is unique, but Irvine is more balanced than the extremes of Newport Beach and Costa Mesa.