If you were to leave Orange County due to high unemployment and high living costs?

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In a hypothetical situation where you lost your job tomorrow, and you find out that it will take you more than 3 years to find a comparable job in OC, which state would you consider moving to if the job opportunities were much greater and the cost of living was much lower than that of OC?
 
I'd just move back to Bakersfield.



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My vote is for "none of the above".



If I could not replicate my salary in OC, I would just find a lower paying job and move to Corona. Seriously, as much as I am not a fan of Corona it is hardly more expensive than any of those states listed....and you are not picking up and moving all the way across the country and away from family and everything you know and value about California. Desperate times would call for desperate measures ---- and as desperate as Corona would be, that would pale in comparison to somewhere like Idaho.
 
depends upon which program wants to hire me. So far texas is the best bet for me. It is a intercompany transfer. California pay, texas cost of living.

-bix
 
Probably either Europe, Asia or Hawaii



oh and Dubai..yes...Dubai



EDIT: Forgot I'm married...so in a house right next to my mother in law.
 
I'd probably go abroad to attend chef school.



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[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1232243366]I'd just move back to Bakersfield.



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Whoa. I spent three days there last week for a training class, Texas is better (and that's not saying much).
 
For job purposes, texas is very business friendly and has the highest number of fortune 500 companies' HQs. The industry is also diverse. According to United Van line last week, Texas is the no. 1 outbound destination. During the current real estate bubble, Texas cities - Dallas, Houston, Austin have the least drop ( Austin did drop a lot after the dot com bust). to my understanding, Texas real estate historically hasn't generated much return with few exception in certain area. Texas has no state income texas, extremely low auto registration / tax. Their sales tax is very similar to CA. Their real estate tx is high - most area of houston, austin, and dallas is about 2 to 3%. In terms of housing, it is not as cheap as you think. To get a 3000 sq ft home with the same quality / features you will find in Irvine company commmunities, and in a top quality neighbourhood, it will still cost you half a million or more. A half million home in Dallas / Houston will run you a real estate tax bill close to 10000 to 15000 a year. In Austin, Dallas, and Houston you can find areas that are very very nice and similar to OC. For me, I am open to move to either Austin or Houston.



In terms of NC / SC: if you like outdoors, like smaller cities, then Charlotte is not bad. But you will never find a hint of OC. It is a different culture there, and can only be best described during a beer. I will never move to Charlotte. Charleson is nice, but not really an employment center. Greenville, SC has a lot of business, especially auto related due to the BMW's plant and many of their supplies setting up shops. Downtown greenville has been improved a lot, and has many nice places to eat. But you get bored after two weeks. Greenville is only 100 miles away from Atlanta, so you can always make weekend trips. Greenville is a pain to fly in and out. All major airlines use regional airlines to service this market. You see a lot of BMWs on the road in Greenville. Personally, I will never move to city with a name ends with "ville". If I remember correctly, there is a state income tax of around 4%.



I have been asked many times to move to Texas. I actually have been thinking about it. With company picking up all the real estate transaction costs, it won't be too bad a deal if I can actually sell my house. Selling the house is probably the biggest issue that HR is dealing with when asking people to relocate out of this area.
 
[quote author="ConsiderAgain" date=1232249026][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1232243366]I'd just move back to Bakersfield.



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Whoa. I spent three days there last week for a training class, Texas is better (and that's not saying much).</blockquote>


Don't diss my home town, or I'll put your eye out you big meanie.
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1232258948][quote author="ConsiderAgain" date=1232249026][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1232243366]I'd just move back to Bakersfield.



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Whoa. I spent three days there last week for a training class, Texas is better (and that's not saying much).</blockquote>


Don't diss my home town, or I'll put your eye out you big meanie.</blockquote>


My bad. I developed a cough and had watery eyes from the first day I was there, presumably from the air. Everyone told me it was good right now, wait for summer. :)





Here are a few thoughts on south Texas. I?ve lived there off and on for several years working in the petrochemical industry along the coast:



- Yes, it is hot and humid 9 out of 12 months of the year. 90 degrees in south TX may feel equivalent to 105 in CA.



- Wages are generally lower than in CA, but there are no state taxes (give yourself a 9.3% raise for wage equilibrium). Unions are not common in TX.



- Full coverage insurance for my 08 4Runner is $625/year in Houston. Our $300k house premium is $875/yr. Both through Allstate.



- The property taxes on our $300k house are $8700/yr. HOA, nongated, is $450/yr in a nice neighborhood.



- Housing is cheap compared to almost anywhere, and 40-70% less than OC. I have owned two houses in TX, none in CA but I?ve been in several. Construction quality is on par or higher in TX compared to the examples I?ve seen in CA. I have never been in a Turtle Ridge/Newport house so my impression is from a very limited CA sampling in Huntington Beach, Fullerton, Tustin and a couple in Irvine, all of which were at least 30 years older than my current house but at least twice the cost.



- People in general are unhealthy by CA standards. Restaurant food is plentiful, cheap and usually pretty good. I believe the climate plays a significant role in why people don?t exercise more leading to boredom and more eating. But there is a growing health awareness in the area although it will never reach CA standards.



- I find groceries in TX are cheaper, but that could be due to lower quality. A gallon of 2% is $3.49. Mid grade gas is $1.70 right now.



- Industry happens in TX, second only to CA. Chemical companies producing organic and inorganic products from basic feedstocks to finish goods, and much oil/gas, are a permanent part of the state economy due to natural reserves and direct access to the Gulf coast. The current drop in energy prices is hitting the TX and CA economies significantly.





I think it is an advantage in TX that you have some control over how much you spend in state taxes. If your household income is $300k, you can have the same tax liability as someone making half that if you both live in similarly valued houses. (Of course that advantage evaporates if you earn the wage in another state and still live in TX.)



Life in south TX is boring. There is a lot to dislike; hurricanes, mildew and humidity, an irritating, omni-present <em>proud to be Texan</em> attitude, two George Bushes if you are a CA liberal (although you should really blame Massachusetts and Conneticut).



On the plus side, life in TX is easy and your dollar goes further. Housing is cheap and you can have an equivalent standard of living compared to OC for much less money.
 
Haven't thought about it too much because it's not going to happen, but South Carolina has always sounded good to me.
 
Isn't Texas (especially in the DFW area) well-known for foundation problems, primarily because of the heavy clay soil? We thought of moving there a couple years ago and I uncovered so much about that issue.



I was excited to visit Padre Island and other places along the gulf but was sorely disappointed about the filthy, mucky water (and jellyfish galore.) Tornadoes and hurricanes don't sound too good either.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1232260644]Isn't Texas (especially in the DFW area) well-known for foundation problems, primarily because of the heavy clay soil? We thought of moving there a couple years ago and I uncovered so much about that issue.



I was excited to visit Padre Island and other places along the gulf but was sorely disappointed about the filthy, mucky water (and jellyfish galore.) Tornadoes and hurricanes don't sound too good either.</blockquote>


no need to worry about foundation if it is constructed right...they do piered foundations over those areas. Cities like Plano has no issues like that.
 
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