Housing Bottom?

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Not according to Dr. Housing Bubble...he did a great write up with 10 reasons why...



Sorry for spamming his site hahaha j/k



I thought it was worth a mention...it's really good and applicable to Irvine



<a href="http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/10-reasons-why-california-is-years-away-from-a-housing-bottom-rebuttal-to-those-calling-for-a-bottom-for-california-housing/">LINK</a>



Housing in California is years away from a bottom. Let me make that clear and if you have any doubts, after reading this essay you will have a better understanding as to how I arrived at that conclusion. This article is longer since it will try to answer many of the arguments from those calling for a real estate bottom here in California. After looking at multiple sources of information like income, demographics, sales, psychology, and the economy there is no logical evidence for a housing bottom in California. It is well worth the read and certainly provides more information than a 1 minute sound bite. Recently I have noticed a resurgence of bottom talk coming from professionals in the field but also through e-mail questions.



My assessment is this renewed energy has come from two primary culprits. The first is of course the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 that provides $300 billion in loan refinances and also bails out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In addition, there are many provisions in the bill to juice the market all of which will have very little impact on California. Both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac announce earnings this week and the news isn?t going to be good. Freddie Mac lost $821 million in the second quarter and announced that they will be slashing their dividend from 25 cents to 5 cents to conserve capital. This wouldn?t be such a big deal except the U.S. taxpayer is now on the hook and a loss for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac leads us one step closer to a bailout.



The second reason for the upsurge in bottom talk at least for California is the massive price drop we?ve seen this past year. A drop in the median sales price statewide by 38.38% is bound to get the attention of anyone. Yet simply because prices have fallen steeply in one year does not signal that now is a good time to buy. In fact, I will give you 10 solid reasons in this article why we are years away from any bottom in California.



We really are living in a once in a lifetime bubble. It is highly probable that none of us will see a real estate and credit bubble of this size ever again. There will be minor jumps and dips in the future but nothing on this level. I think the best way to conceptualize this extremely large fiasco is to think of someone who is massively in debt. Everyone knows of a friend or family member that spends way beyond his or her means and is usually in major debt. They have nine credit cards, a $700 car payment, a $4,000 mortgage, and yet seem to shuffle debt around like musical chairs. At a certain point, this game ends and some accept the reality and confront the issue head on and others live in denial.



Those that confront the reality sometimes meet with a financial professional or a debt counselor usually with advice to cut up the credit cards and develop a sustainable budget. A prudent plan. If you are serious about correcting negative cash flow situations, you really have to create a budget that takes into account how much money is coming in and going out. In the case of our country, it has gone into debt counseling, was told to cut up the credit cards but is refusing to do so and is actually applying for more credit cards!



What you will not hear from bottom talkers is any mention of incomes from the vast majority of people. Sure they will use random examples of those in Bel Air, Brentwood, Laguna Beach, or Newport Coast but that is a tiny fraction of the population. They cannot use income as a measure of support because it will demolish their bottom theory. Let us now move on to the 10 reasons why California is years away from a housing bottom.
 
Very interesting read. I see alot of people getting impatient and my new "gospel word" has been patience. (Not that patience is such a bad thing in general....)

Take it easy
 
"""Those that confront the reality sometimes meet with a financial professional or a debt counselor usually with advice to cut up the credit cards and develop a sustainable budget. A prudent plan. If you are serious about correcting negative cash flow situations, you really have to create a budget that takes into account how much money is coming in and going out. In the case of our country, it has gone into debt counseling, was told to cut up the credit cards but is refusing to do so and is actually applying for more credit cards!"""



Sounds really good when you do have a job. The other hammer that is falling is all the people who are in Banking, Real Estate, Title insurance, construction, appliance makers furniture makers and everyone else connected to the industury who are now loosing all thier jobs and will not find jobs that will pay a third to even a half of what they where making. Unemployment is only going higher and with equity lines turned off and americans running up thier credit cards at a record level to make the bills no wonder everyone is walking away from the burden of debt eventually. Not until 2013 are we going to see anything but more bad news. Time to buy a van and live by the lake...
 
[quote author="biscuitninja" date=1218153603]Very interesting read. I see alot of people getting impatient and my new "gospel word" has been patience. (Not that patience is such a bad thing in general....)

Take it easy</blockquote>


Patience is a virtue, something that too many in our society of immediate gratification do not have. My $.02
 
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