Hello!? Please don?t f-ck with my house in Newport Beach?

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It appears people have truly lost the distinction between savings and credit. This woman actually believes the credit line was her money. If she believes she has equity (which is probably illusory,) she can always sell her house and get all the cash that really is hers.





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<p><strong>Appreciation is Income</strong></p>

<p>Look at the difference between the behavior of rich and poor when it comes to home price appreciation. The rich view home price appreciation as adding to their net worth. If lower interest rates allow them to refinance, they will restructure their debt to pay off the loan more quickly in order to increase their wealth. Poor people view home price appreciation as income; free money for them to spend. If lower interest rates allow them to refinance, they will restructure their loan to pull as much home equity as possible and reduce their payment as much as possible so they can spend more. If any net worth happens to accumulate, they obtain a home equity line of credit and spend the appreciation as quickly as possible — it makes them feel rich even though it really makes them poor.</p>

<p><strong>Credit is Savings</strong></p>

<p>So how do the rich and poor deal with credit? The rich don’t carry consumer debt. Why would they pay interest on a credit balance when it almost always costs more than the income they earn on their savings? The rich will use credit sparingly and most often pay off any credit balances each month as the bill comes due. In contrast, the poor carry as much consumer debt as they can afford to service. Whenever they receive an increase in a credit line, they believe they have more money to spend, just like it was savings. In a strange way, a credit account is like a savings account, only it has a negative balance. In a savings account, the saver earns money; in a credit account, the spender loses money. Again, the rich have savings, and the poor have credit.</p>

<p><strong>Debt is Wealth</strong></p>

<p>There are a great many Southern California residents who live in big houses, and they believe that makes them rich. To them, the possession and use of an expensive house makes them wealthy even if they have no equity in the property. The rich buy less home than they can afford and work to pay off the debt in order to maximize their net worth. The poor stretch their finances to possess more home than they can afford with loan terms which never retire the debt, or in the case of negative amortization loans, actually increases their debt held against the property. This ensures they either never gain any equity or only gain it by appreciation, and as mentioned previously, if prices appreciate they quickly withdraw the gain to fuel more consumer spending.</p>
 
<p>The poor think looking rich means they're rich. (Actually these people are lower-middle to mid middle class). The well off to rich don't care that much what things look like, they have actual assets. </p>

<p>I heard things growing up like, "Never spend your captial" from my grandmother, who inherited a very small fortune as a young child. And always read everything before you sign.</p>

<p>An (honest) appraiser who made a whole lot of money during the Fla bubble, and now has no assets only debts, refers to me as rich! I am not rich, we have merely paid off our live-in declining asset. To him, accumulating anything is rich. I told him that after a certain rather low amount, what counts isn't what you make, it's what sticks. Well, I'm twice his age, so manybe he'll learn.</p>

<p>I saw people who having managed to purchase a house, a nice one, on huge credit, concluded that they were rich, and had to live up to the house! Weird.</p>

<p>There is a book, which might be out of print called "Class". Worth reading. The guy divides people into classes from top out of sight--people so rich, you never even see them, to bottom out of sight--so poor, they have no homes and cower in the shadows, so you never see them. If you want to, you can score your living room, to see where you fit. I e. does it have books or not? Wouldn't work for me; our books are everywhere other than the living room. Like small children or animals, I like to keep the pesky things outta there.</p>
 
<p>^^ Liz ha ha! </p>

<p>Wow, this lady needs to get an education of what CREDIT lines are.</p>

<p>Its funny, the people I see here completely judge me by my clothes/car/attitude. Every time we eat out we get set apart from the "beautiful people". Which is laughable because it works for us, we've met the nicest people, as well as my wife can't stand crowds (hearing aids go crazy with backgound clutter and white noise).</p>

<p>Its kinda funny for people to think you're rich when you just live within your means.</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
<p>I seldom eat out anywhere fancy enough to have beautiful people. I suppose the concept might exist for a few South Florida areas, like South Beach. Some movie stars live/have houses here.</p>

<p>Yep, it is so; maybe it is the confidence that no one is going to kick you out of anywhere. Tho, I suppose we'd get desperate in Great Depression? II, just not quite as soon as everybody else.</p>

<p>There is an article in Slate about rich people being just as pathological as out of control poor people.</p>

<p>Funny thing is, I think I'm rather extravagant with buying too many plants and books. We don't budget.</p>

<p>If I wanted to I could retire and mooch off the hub.</p>
 
<p>Liz, </p>

<p> Its not mooching, it is, "selectingly loving your husbands assets"... </p>

<p>These places are not fancy, they would LIKE to think they were, they are more slighly upper class. Oh well..</p>

<p>-bix</p>

<p> </p>
 
<p><em>I seldom eat out anywhere fancy enough to have beautiful people.</em></p>

<p>LL, you can't miss us in SoCal....we are everywhere ! </p>
 
Liz,



I agree.



My mom made me read "The Millionaire Next Door" when I was a teenager. Allowed me to realize that the display of wealth doesn't equal actual wealth.
 
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