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<p>My husband and I have been shopping the Cal Pac detached condos so I will chime in. It seems as if most of the phase releases are being held up because the smaller untis are not moving as quickly as the larger ones. We cannot afford a larger model at Cortile and consider the location of residence one a plus over the location of the residence 3 at Vientos. We might be deterred if residence 1 was squashed in the middle at Cortile.</p>

<p>The street front is boring, but i think most so-cal meets spanish/medietrranean designs are uninspired. I would not pay any extra for a porch. In Ladera Ranch front patios/porches are pretty common but i don't think they are a strong selling point. If outdoor space is going to be limited I want it to be private. It seems like builders and resellers try to pass off the porch as an added feature which I do not find useful other than for aesthetic purpose.</p>
 
<p>When I first looked at Cortile and Bowen Court. I already imagined how the neighbors could easily look in the windows. Specifically, the kitchen. </p>

<p>As to condo with the front courtyard. I find that to be such a waste of space. I hardly use mine because of the lack of privacy. </p>
 
<p>Being in the front would add to the curb appeal, but that alone won't be enough to convince me to buy that over a unit in the back. Even if the larger floorplan home in the front had a courtyard/porch to add distance to the sidewalk (which is purely for looks since it's not private), it would have to be in a 4pack cluster for me to consider its purchase. IMO 6 and 8pack clusters just have too much traffic both in the courtyard and the driveway. We're not looking at the large 8pack clusters, but I agree that the smallest floorplans should be stuck in the middle for privacy reasons. Perhaps largest floorplan in the back, medium size floorplan in the front and smallest sandwiched in the middle???</p>

<p>We've been looking at the larger floorplans of the 4/6pack clusters and prefer its location in the back for several reasons.</p>



Privacy isn't so bad in the back if you're in a smaller cluster (this would be a problem in Vientos or Bowen Court)

We feel you actually have less privacy in the front because you have more people walking/driving past your house to get to the homes in the back

The back usually has the larger yard, which is important for families and/or people who love to entertain

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<p>When it's all said and done, I rather be tucked in the back with more privacy. And on a side note, we should have more detached condos with something other than spanish/mediterranean theme. While I would consider buying one, they don't particularly appear to me.</p>
 
i think the smaller to larger going from street toward the back of the courtyard is the right way to position the different plans. its creates a balance by giving each unit its pros and cons. like ochomeshopr said, if they stuck the smallest plan in the worst position, it would never sell. isnt that the whole point of various models at different price points? alternatively you could ask -- why not just create 3 identical floorplans and price soley on location within the courtyard? theres numerous ways to lay it out and i think calpac has done an acceptable job with that. they never seem to have a problem selling the larger plans despite location.





bkshopr -- i think the cortile units along great lawn are a great example of how to give more curb appeal. they were done very well imo. the plan 1s are set further from the sidewalk and many have "walled gardens" and extended steps leading up to the front door. the elevation adds a lot visually. also the exteriors on that block are far more interesting with some of the plan 2s having balconies.





unfortunately the other blocks of cortile on the north and east side of woodbury don't have the same details. any idea why? did they just decide to give more styling to the great lawn block since it borders the park?
 
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