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<p>Does anybody know of anything like this in the SoCal area? I've always loved them, but the only place I see them are in Pasadena (SP?). Thanks</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
You might look in some of the older areas of Orange, Tustin, Fullerton and Santa Ana. Frankly, I'm not sure what differentiates a Craftsman from an Arts & Crafts or anything else that is 1920's or 1930's era. Last year there was a beautifully restored Craftsman that was sold in the Santiago Park area of Santa Ana. You can do a Zip Realty search for homes in all cities of Orange County that were built between certain years. That would probably help you find ones for sale.
 
I have no idea what an arts and crafts home is. How about Eichler homes perhaps? I love these homes, too bad they are in Orange and not Southern OC.





<a href="http://www.eichlersocal.com/aeh.html">www.eichlersocal.com/aeh.html</a>
 
The Gamble house is well know and pretty much a historic treasure. Unfortunately its proabably out of my price range by a few digits for so. . I'll do a search and see what I come up with
 
<p>This is exactly what I was looking for, unfortunatley it a tad bit out of my range (~100k or so). We will see though.</p>

<p>good luck</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
<p>Eva,</p>

<p>I almost bought that Craftsman house in Park Santiago at the corner of Santa Clara. The highest bidder went over 1.2 million for that house. I low balled the bid down to $1 million thinking the soft market would not yield high bids. I lost 2 other additional bids for similar caliber historic properties. I was surprised.</p>

<p>One of a kind properties are difficult to find. Regardless of the market buyers are alway out there looking for them. Since these homes were heirloomed to younger generations within the same family one rarely see them on the market. Production homes at any given time there are 2 dozens of the same house and plan in different neighborhoods for sale. One could afford to bid low or wait around for the more deperate seller. It is very unfortunate that buyers could not take advantage of the soft market and get a good deal on these historic homes. Average listing dates on most charming historic wood sided colonial homes is about 45 days. All were sold for well over a million.</p>

<p>Are there any one here interested in historic properties?</p>
 
<p>*raises hand*</p>

<p>BK, I think that as time passes you may find some bargains (comparitively speaking). If the cost basis for the owner is no or low, and their circumstances are such that they need to sell (i.e., job transfer, growing family, etc.) or if the new generation is underwater because they HELOC'd it to death, there may be enough incentive to lower the price. I've seen two nice houses in FP that started at over $1M and one didn't come off market until it dipped into the $900Ks. The other is still for sale in the high $900Ks. I don't know if the other one sold. It was in and out of escrow several times. It's possible that the owners gave up after several months because to sell for less than their asking price would result in a short sale. </p>

<p>I think I recall the Craftsman in PS. Was that a Sandy DeAngelis listing and the owner was an architect? If so, keep in mind the state of the real estate and credit markets at the time of the sale. Plus, that appeared to be a <em>very</em> well done restoration. That's not very common anymore. </p>

<p>We went looking yesterday and saw one semi-promising prospect. I kept thinking, "I wish BK was here to tell me what to look for!"</p>
 
<p>That was the one like you said well restored Listed by Sandy. I also knew the several which you mentioned. The wood siding Colonials have sold quickly while the fairytale cottages seems to linger. She listed another Colonial last weekend on Heliotrope.</p>
 
There are some in downtown Long Beach. Although they are beautiful to look at, I find Craftsman homes to be rather dark and not all that practical.
 
The Craftsman and Arts and Crafts homes came right after the Victorian Age when pale skin was considered beautiful. Corsetry to emphasize figure and umbrella for shade were a must during the era. Sunlight in the house was not a feature. Wealth was measured by the amount of exotic dark wood finishes used in the home. Women often put leeches on their skin to have their blood sucked out to acheive the pale skin tone. The corset choked the air passage to the stomach and women retrieved up to the Victorian tower to faint located on the third floor hidden away from the view of gentlemen and guests.
 
<p>When we lived in Buffalo, NY we had the opportunity to see inside numerous Arts and Crafts style homes. We considered buying one but found most of them to be very dark inside ("sunlight is not a feature" was a perfect description, <strong>bkshopr</strong>!) We also didn't like how cramped the rooms on the second floor felt. I loved them for their charm and character though and I always imagined that if I lived in a location that was sunny and bright I'd buy one. Unfortunately Buffalo is dreary and dark for most of the year so the thought of living in a home that felt that closed in kept us away from purchasing.</p>
 
<p>Sac Renter,</p>

<p>The charm that you mentioned are the cottage scale and propertion. The only way to get that charm is to clip the ceiling at the second floor to lower the roof eaves between the first and second story. If the roofs were to be raised to clear the ceiling of the second story rooms then the scale will get to be too tall and changes the character of this fairytale style. I love this style too. Reason, they are all over Ross and Greenleaf strret between Broadway and Flower. </p>
 
<p>Bk:</p>

<p>That's correct. I have seen some really "cute" homes near the old courthouse. Unfortunatetly, they're rental properties in scary neighborhoods. But I truly can see the historic aspects of these homes. You can almost imagine an old lady from the 20's sitting at the front porch </p>
 
Yes, the red sand stone courthouse. The area near the court house is the French District. It is becoming better but far from the exclusivity of Floral Park. The street into French Park is too easy too accessible. Remenber my safety posts? The urban renewal zoning of the 60's allowed for the demolition of older houses to make way for higher density apartments to better serve the community and solved for affordability rentals. The politically correct solution was suicidal for the future of this once upon a time a quaint community. Urban blight claimed the death of many old neighborhoods. Drive to Floral Park on Valencia, Ross, Greeleaf and Heliotrope and cross over Santa Clara into Riverside you will see many well preserved vintage homes of a by gone era that no builders and not even TIC today can create. Even with money no one can recreate the long lost art of of the artisans.
 
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