Air Traffic around Columbus Square

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<p>Hi,</p>

<p>I've been looking at the homes at Columbus Square and realized lately that there are a lot of planes flying not so far from the homes.</p>

<p>Is that bothering anyone? Does anybody already live there and have any problem with that?</p>
 
Roo, I don't live there, but I travel in and out of SNA several time a month. I can see the track clearly from left side of the airplane almost every time I land. Most of the SNA landings are from inland, very few from the ocean side from my 8 years of experiences of flying in and out SNA.
 
<p>Commercial aircraft landing at SNA is generally lined up with 55 during a normal final approach. From VOC it is close enough to see the planes, but far enough for you to not hear it. VOC isn't under the direct flight path but sometimes general aviation planes may fly over here and there. Theres also a 11pm curfew at SNA which is mostly for the newport guys. I'd be more worried about the train tracks than aircraft :)</p>
 
<p>Despite some previous <a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/2007/06/04/centex-pulling-out-of-tustin-legacy/">discussion to the contrary</a> (*cough-chuckponzi-cough*), the commercial aircraft traffic remain on the other (northwestern) side of Red Hill for the entire approach. So from Columbus Square (or any of the former base property) the planes can be seen and heard but it isn't very loud.</p>

<p>When they reverse takeoff and landing direction (usually only due to Santa Anas blowing), takeoffs coming inland will be louder and could deviate over Columbus Square, but this is probably a dozen or so days a year.</p>

<p>SCHB</p>

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Planes, Trains . . . is it worth buying a house in this area when this is even a discussion? There are plenty of other houses out there to consider - especially at these prices.
 
The area has a lot to offer for many people. Shoppers at Woodbury and PS are different than shoppers at Columbus, in my experience. Yes, it is worth buying a house there, if that's the location that you want. Others prefer to be further south, away from the bustle.
 
<p>CalGal asked...<em>is it worth buying a house in this area when this is even a discussion?</em></p>

<p>Apparently it was worth it for thousands of Newporters who are in the daily takeoff path of SNA. This makes the issue a few orders of magnitude worse than what is experienced in Columbus Square.</p>

<p>The view of the hangar(s) and huge surplus of mice and bunnies are bigger issues than the planes.</p>

<p>SCHB</p>
 
But they have the Newport Beach zipcode. That's all that matters (sarcasm). Who cares if your house rattles every ten minutes.
 
<p>I've been in some of those homes (Newport, that is) during prior house-hunting episodes.</p>

<p>It's like thunder!</p>
 
<p>Plus if you are discussing this when buying a home, you can bet the next potential buyers will be discussing it as well. It will limit your pool of potential buyers. We won't even consider a house under these conditions - price isn't even considered.</p>

<p>Sorry for the negativity - but it's a huge negative in my eyes. </p>
 
One would hope that negative externalities like this would be built-in to the price already. I don't think they are just yet. Too much Kool-Aid passed around.
 
<p>"The view of the hangar(s) and huge surplus of mice and bunnies are bigger issues than the planes."</p>

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<p>Funny you mention that ... the bunnies I can deal with. The mice ... let's just say one gave the missus a big scare when she saw a black furry thing scuttling around our garage, and it has been annoying to find them having gnawed on my slug repellent pellets (yum?!)</p>

<p>I stomped one (sorry animal lovers) that I caught scampering around when I was watering my plants.</p>

<p>Time to put out the goo-sheets to catch 'em.</p>

<p>And sorry for thread crapping. I believe prices in Columbus Square are not fair market value just yet.</p>
 
Westpark seems to have a fair number of outdoor cats to help thin the rodent herd. Never seen any kitties on the other side of Harvard, though.
 
I'm gonna call bs on that one. Me thinks you think a tad too much of TIC.
 
I think you're misreading my comments. I'm not of fan of TIC, WB or PS. (To be honest though, I love Las Colinas but can't afford it, and the lots are small)





The difference in shoppers seems to be that VOC people don't mind traffic, an the train whistle, and seeing the hangars, in exchange for location.





Woodbury fans like the "calmer" area, more amenities and don't mind being a further away. I've heard from people who live in WB that the train whistle is loud there sometimes, too.





My preference? VOC. I've been there many times, and different times of the day, and know several people who live in CGrove. I like the curved streets, small community (not that long long drive to get through WB) , and I like that its very close to work some of us.





As the rest of Sand Canyon and Jeffrey are built out, the traffic will be the same, and will catch up with the rest of Irvine.
 
<p>I know what you mean about the hangars - I personally don't like them.</p>

<p>Since the one closer to The District is coming down, none of Columbus Grove will have to deal with that.</p>

<p>Columbus Square, however, does have that issue. Some homes back right up to it. That would be a major deal breaker for me. Plus that is Tustin.</p>

<p>I think The Irvine Company did an amazing job in Turtle Ridge, Shady Canyon, Newport Coast, Crystal Cove and to a lesser extent, Quail Hill. I don't think Woodbury or Portola Springs are close to being on the same level, prestige-wise.</p>

<p>It will be very interesting to see what can be made of Orchard Hills. It's confusing, because so much of the dirt I see is right next to the toll road. How they will buffer that, I don't know.</p>

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[quote author="Janet" date=1187819669]<p>I've been in some of those homes (Newport, that is) during prior house-hunting episodes.</p>

<p>It's like thunder!</p></blockquote>


And how's that been doing for Newport Beach property values?
 
I don't think the concerns for planes, trains, and toxins over in Columbus Square are that big of a deal. Some of on this blog may take them seriously, but the general public doesn't really care too much. As for me, I just think Columbus Square sucks because it's like an island of homes in the middle of piles and piles of dirt. Columbus Grove is much nicer. I like Columbus Grove. Columbus Square is still way underdeveloped.
 
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