A "NO" vote on Prop. 8 won't give us freedom to marry who we choose
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caycifish_IHB
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Last time I checked, our constitution applied to 3D human beings.
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.
serious weapon_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1225636894][quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
And your hand doesn't count.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
And your hand doesn't count.
no_vaseline_IHB
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The crime there is hacking somebody else's computer........................why let the facts get in the way of a good story.
[quote author="graphrix" date=1225636894][quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.
serious weapon_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225659077][quote author="graphrix" date=1225636894][quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Send him a pic of yourself.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Send him a pic of yourself.
caycifish_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225658830][quote author="caycifish" date=1225634558]Last time I checked, our constitution applied to 3D human beings.</blockquote>
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225659077][quote author="graphrix" date=1225636894][quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Oh... you were trying to be funny. This is new for you, so I will forgive you for not being funny on your first try. Keep trying though, it is an improvement from you screaming idiots, stupid, and moron.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Oh... you were trying to be funny. This is new for you, so I will forgive you for not being funny on your first try. Keep trying though, it is an improvement from you screaming idiots, stupid, and moron.
[quote author="caycifish" date=1225679028][quote author="WINEX" date=1225658830][quote author="caycifish" date=1225634558]Last time I checked, our constitution applied to 3D human beings.</blockquote>
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.
wendyinoc_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
I believe their is a Japanese women getting 5 years for killing her in game husband's avatar. They might not be ready for this yet.
I believe their is a Japanese women getting 5 years for killing her in game husband's avatar. They might not be ready for this yet.
[quote author="graphrix" date=1225679131][quote author="WINEX" date=1225659077][quote author="graphrix" date=1225636894][quote author="WINEX" date=1225632640]We won't achieve that goal unless we <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/3283463/Japanese-launch-campaign-to-marry-comic-book-characters.html">do what the Japanese are doing...</a></blockquote>
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Oh... you were trying to be funny. This is new for you, so I will forgive you for not being funny on your first try. Keep trying though, it is an improvement from you screaming idiots, stupid, and moron.</blockquote>
I'm sorry. I can see how you are confused. (You really are confused quite easily) The problem is that I don't write at a level that a 3rd grader can understand then make comments about how "snarky" I am.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.
You really, really, need to get laid by a three dimensional character.</blockquote>
You really, really, need to develop a sense of humor.</blockquote>
Oh... you were trying to be funny. This is new for you, so I will forgive you for not being funny on your first try. Keep trying though, it is an improvement from you screaming idiots, stupid, and moron.</blockquote>
I'm sorry. I can see how you are confused. (You really are confused quite easily) The problem is that I don't write at a level that a 3rd grader can understand then make comments about how "snarky" I am.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225682413]I'm sorry. I can see how you are confused. (You really are confused quite easily) The problem is that I don't write at a level that a 3rd grader can understand then make comments about how "snarky" I am.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.</blockquote>
That would mean you would actually have to start writing above a 3rd grade level, and writing and behaving like an adult. Until then, it is you who will be left in the dark and thinking that you are an adult, when you have proven that you enjoy behaving like a name calling child. It is too bad you still don't understand that after I, and many other people, have pointed that out to you over and over again. It's not what you say that I and others have an issue with, it is how you say it. If only you could be the bigger person and stop behaving like a name calling child, then maybe you could have some self respect and the respect of others.
I mean, YOU are the one who posted the article about marrying cartoon characters, not ME. Yeah... that makes you so adult like and smarter than me. Good job in pointing that out.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.</blockquote>
That would mean you would actually have to start writing above a 3rd grade level, and writing and behaving like an adult. Until then, it is you who will be left in the dark and thinking that you are an adult, when you have proven that you enjoy behaving like a name calling child. It is too bad you still don't understand that after I, and many other people, have pointed that out to you over and over again. It's not what you say that I and others have an issue with, it is how you say it. If only you could be the bigger person and stop behaving like a name calling child, then maybe you could have some self respect and the respect of others.
I mean, YOU are the one who posted the article about marrying cartoon characters, not ME. Yeah... that makes you so adult like and smarter than me. Good job in pointing that out.
bltserv_IHB
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stepping_up_IHB
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It seems to me that this board has a large proportion of people with higher IQ's than normal, including Winex. I'm not sure why he thinks he is so superior to just about everyone here on an intellectual basis, which he must since he throws out idiot, stupid, moron in just about every post. However even if he was this genius that he thinks he is, that still wouldn't mean anything because his emotional IQ is so stunted. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he is handicapped in this area.
I really enjoy all the thoughtful discussion on this board and hearing multiple takes and sides on issues from very intelligent people. I find a lot of value in it and I believe most everyone feels the same way. I'd like to know what Winex feels he gets out of this board other than a forum to call people stupid when they do not agree with him. I mean you can do that on any forum. What is it about this board that you like so well?
I really enjoy all the thoughtful discussion on this board and hearing multiple takes and sides on issues from very intelligent people. I find a lot of value in it and I believe most everyone feels the same way. I'd like to know what Winex feels he gets out of this board other than a forum to call people stupid when they do not agree with him. I mean you can do that on any forum. What is it about this board that you like so well?
caycifish_IHB
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[quote author="WINEX" date=1225680076][quote author="caycifish" date=1225679028][quote author="WINEX" date=1225658830][quote author="caycifish" date=1225634558]Last time I checked, our constitution applied to 3D human beings.</blockquote>
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.</blockquote>
To be clear, I was talking about our state constitution. But whatever. I'm over it.
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.</blockquote>
To be clear, I was talking about our state constitution. But whatever. I'm over it.
[quote author="caycifish" date=1225691567][quote author="WINEX" date=1225680076][quote author="caycifish" date=1225679028][quote author="WINEX" date=1225658830][quote author="caycifish" date=1225634558]Last time I checked, our constitution applied to 3D human beings.</blockquote>
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.</blockquote>
To be clear, I was talking about our state constitution. But whatever. I'm over it.</blockquote>
OK, I was referring to the US Constitution. As someone who is relatively new to the state, I will admit not knowing much about the state constitution. But I do believe this is a matter for the states, not the federal government.
Of course things get more convoluted when the government injects itself in areas it should stay out of. If marriage was simply a union between two or more people (we can't forget the polygamists!), then it would be easy to say that the state shouldn't even be involved in licensing the practice. But the government has gotten involved in things such as Social Security and Medicare, and benefits aren't just based on what an individual has contributed to the system. The state has long used tax code to promote activities it deems beneficial to society and restrict activities it deems harmful to society. By forcing an issue like gay marriage on society, the courts are saying that the government should subsidize deviant behavior that is harmful to the mores of society.
And, of course, if the state promotes one alternative lifestyle, why should it stop there? What about polygamy? Incest? Why shouldn't the state be forced to recognize all alternative "lifestyles"?
The last time I checked, the US Constitution didn't mention the word "marriage"...</blockquote>
"Equal", dude. Equal.</blockquote>
Take a look at the 9th and 10th amendments. They've got it covered.</blockquote>
To be clear, I was talking about our state constitution. But whatever. I'm over it.</blockquote>
OK, I was referring to the US Constitution. As someone who is relatively new to the state, I will admit not knowing much about the state constitution. But I do believe this is a matter for the states, not the federal government.
Of course things get more convoluted when the government injects itself in areas it should stay out of. If marriage was simply a union between two or more people (we can't forget the polygamists!), then it would be easy to say that the state shouldn't even be involved in licensing the practice. But the government has gotten involved in things such as Social Security and Medicare, and benefits aren't just based on what an individual has contributed to the system. The state has long used tax code to promote activities it deems beneficial to society and restrict activities it deems harmful to society. By forcing an issue like gay marriage on society, the courts are saying that the government should subsidize deviant behavior that is harmful to the mores of society.
And, of course, if the state promotes one alternative lifestyle, why should it stop there? What about polygamy? Incest? Why shouldn't the state be forced to recognize all alternative "lifestyles"?
[quote author="graphrix" date=1225683997][quote author="WINEX" date=1225682413]I'm sorry. I can see how you are confused. (You really are confused quite easily) The problem is that I don't write at a level that a 3rd grader can understand then make comments about how "snarky" I am.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.</blockquote>
That would mean you would actually have to start writing above a 3rd grade level, and writing and behaving like an adult. Until then, it is you who will be left in the dark and thinking that you are an adult, when you have proven that you enjoy behaving like a name calling child. It is too bad you still don't understand that after I, and many other people, have pointed that out to you over and over again. It's not what you say that I and others have an issue with, it is how you say it. If only you could be the bigger person and stop behaving like a name calling child, then maybe you could have some self respect and the respect of others.
I mean, YOU are the one who posted the article about marrying cartoon characters, not ME. Yeah... that makes you so adult like and smarter than me. Good job in pointing that out.</blockquote>
I'll leave you to yourself to play this game of "I know you are, but what am I?". It should be a good way for you to prove how mature you are.
Given the choice between writing things that a moron could understand to appease you and communicating with adults, I'm afraid I'll just have to leave you in the dark while I talk with the adults.</blockquote>
That would mean you would actually have to start writing above a 3rd grade level, and writing and behaving like an adult. Until then, it is you who will be left in the dark and thinking that you are an adult, when you have proven that you enjoy behaving like a name calling child. It is too bad you still don't understand that after I, and many other people, have pointed that out to you over and over again. It's not what you say that I and others have an issue with, it is how you say it. If only you could be the bigger person and stop behaving like a name calling child, then maybe you could have some self respect and the respect of others.
I mean, YOU are the one who posted the article about marrying cartoon characters, not ME. Yeah... that makes you so adult like and smarter than me. Good job in pointing that out.</blockquote>
I'll leave you to yourself to play this game of "I know you are, but what am I?". It should be a good way for you to prove how mature you are.
stepping_up_IHB
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It's not being "forced" on society. The court didn't say that anyone is being forced to marry someone of their own gender, rather they simply said that everyone has the right to marry their partner in life. The Christian right mores aren't necessarily one and the same for our societal mores. In fact, one of the strongest mores the United States has is our view that everyone is equal under the law and thus have equal rights. We haven't always done a great job of including everyone in this ideal, but we are progressively doing so, inlcuding giving gays the right to marry.
How can you call two people who love each other so very much that they want to commit themselves to be one deviant? Before I met my husband I didn't see what the big deal about marriage was, but when I met the person who I loved so profoundly I wanted more than anything to make that commitment. The intensity of the joy and love I felt during our ceremony was something I will never ever forget. I thought we had the greatest love, but the ceremony united us even more. I still get teary eyed when I think about it. If two people feel this for each other, it's beautiful and helps make for a better society. What harm can come from the state recognizing the love two people feel for each other?
Tax wise, we were both better off before we filed that first joint return. If gays were allowed to marry nationally, we'd have a bit more revenue.
How can you call two people who love each other so very much that they want to commit themselves to be one deviant? Before I met my husband I didn't see what the big deal about marriage was, but when I met the person who I loved so profoundly I wanted more than anything to make that commitment. The intensity of the joy and love I felt during our ceremony was something I will never ever forget. I thought we had the greatest love, but the ceremony united us even more. I still get teary eyed when I think about it. If two people feel this for each other, it's beautiful and helps make for a better society. What harm can come from the state recognizing the love two people feel for each other?
Tax wise, we were both better off before we filed that first joint return. If gays were allowed to marry nationally, we'd have a bit more revenue.