CalBears96
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Entrepreneurs, sure, but employees? In fact, employees benefit more since theat means fewer competition. Either way, it helps tax payers more than hurts.
2025 Top Public Colleges & Universities
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The higher tuition paid by international students doesn't increase the ROI for taxpayers one bit, because every dollar invested in education has a multiplier effect that leads to higher productivity for those future workers. If those workers are fleeing to another country, we are investing in that country's future economy. It would be best for taxpayers to pay a little more to educate American students and therefore, to benefit from that multiplier effect on our nation's future productivity.
In other words, the higher investment paid by taxpayers will be repaid many times over IF those workers stay in the country.
Loco_local
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Turning away students with a 4.0 and near perfect SAT in favor of educating foreign students who don’t even stay in the US after graduation doesn’t seem like a good investment for a public university. If they were having problems filling seats I could understand the logic. Admitting a student from China just because his parents have more money than a Chinese American who went to a competitive local high school seems like a poor investment choice for the state of California.
Liar Loan
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The ROI tax payers are supposed to get includes a well-educated workforce, which helps grow the economy. The theory behind admitting international students is that they too will stay and help grow our economy, but if they are mostly leaving for their home countries and taking their UC education with them, it doesn't benefit taxpayers.
The higher tuition paid by international students doesn't increase the ROI for taxpayers one bit, because every dollar invested in education has a multiplier effect that leads to higher productivity for those future workers. If those workers are fleeing to another country, we are investing in that country's future economy. It would be best for taxpayers to pay a little more to educate American students and therefore, to benefit from that multiplier effect on our nation's future productivity.
In other words, the higher investment paid by taxpayers will be repaid many times over IF those workers stay in the country.
CalBears96
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Engineering students from top UCs would rather stay in Silicon Valley than returning to China and they have no problem obtaining H-1B visas. In fact, I would say that rich Chinese parents would want their kids stay in the US rather than returning to China. That's why FCBs are scooping up homes in Irvine.
But the main point is, public universities are funded by tax payers, and funds are limited. It must come from somewhere, so a compromise is needed, whether it's international students or out of state students.
But the main point is, public universities are funded by tax payers, and funds are limited. It must come from somewhere, so a compromise is needed, whether it's international students or out of state students.
panda
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On the right is the ranking of the Top public universities. In the left I have ranked the public Universities by the lowest acceptance rate. Georgia Institute of Technology is now the 3rd most difficult Public University to get into. I attended University of Michigan as an undergrad and I believe Georgia Institute of Technology will become the 3rd best public university in the U.S.
University of Florida is also an emerging university where the applicants pool have grown expontially over the years. There were 38,069 applicants in 2020 and this number has almost doubled to 67,000 in 2022.
University of Florida is also an emerging university where the applicants pool have grown expontially over the years. There were 38,069 applicants in 2020 and this number has almost doubled to 67,000 in 2022.
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panda
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I look at cost of College attendance similar to that of Investment Properties.
This is what I consider to be an emerging public University on the rise. University of Georgia is really undervalued (Under the Radar) in my opinion. Eventually the acceptance rate at UGA will be in the mid teens, rivaling the top public universities : UNC, UMich, UVA, Cal, and UCLA. UGA's applicant pool will reach 100,000 by 2035.
https://medicine.uga.edu/ The University of Georgia's (UGA) School of Medicine is expected to open in 2026
This is what I consider to be an emerging public University on the rise. University of Georgia is really undervalued (Under the Radar) in my opinion. Eventually the acceptance rate at UGA will be in the mid teens, rivaling the top public universities : UNC, UMich, UVA, Cal, and UCLA. UGA's applicant pool will reach 100,000 by 2035.
https://medicine.uga.edu/ The University of Georgia's (UGA) School of Medicine is expected to open in 2026
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Imnotmoving
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I have heard so many people regretting the amount of time and money college required. If they had invested the same time and money into starting their own business it works out about the same down the road. College isn’t the prestigious thing it used to be. Time is the luxury we all want and creating your own business around your life is a great goal.