Features you like in a home (version 3)

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irvinehomeowner

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So 16 years ago... I joined the IHB forums (ancestor to TalkIrvine) and at the time it wasn't very friendly to newbies... or at least to me. One of the first threads I created was talking about what I thought a "family home" should have and all the regulars roasted me but eventually, after dispersing some misperceptions, I was able to win them all over (except maybe for Graphrix :) ).

Looking back at my original list, not much has changed except that several of the features I prefer are no longer part of new builds so let's revisit the list again (posted a 2nd thread a year or so later). And remember this is for a family of at least 4:

1. 5 bedrooms (4 with a den or bonus room will work)
2. All living areas: Living room, dining room, family room and nook
3. Kitchen: Must have huge center island with eat-at bar (usually the sink will be in it) and a walk-in (or really big) pantry
4. Separate laundry room with sink (preferably upstairs)
5. Master bathroom: Separate shower and tub, shower should be sizeable with a seat and separate vanity area (for the ladies)
6. Front courtyard
7. Vaulted or high ceilings
8. 3-car garage (real 3-car? not tandem)
9. Reasonable back/side yard space
10. Cul-de-sac location

Below were later adds:
11. Separate his/her master walk-in closets:
The sigoth loves the fact that our clothes aren't mixed. They also make great dressing rooms. Walk-in closets are like little vacation getaways.
12. Fully enclosed master shower:
Such a spa-like experience taking a shower where the only glass is on the door. Nice and private.
13. California Room:
Just kidding. But I do like them. I've always liked it when builders did that balcony off the master that created a covered patio/Cali Room on the first floor. There's something to be said to have a solid roofed outside area in your backyard.

Here's how I would redo it today (bold are changes):

1. 4 bedrooms and a loft and one bedroom has to be downstairs.
2. Living room/den, dining room and kitchen/nook/great room. Doesn't need all the living spaces but should have at least 2 eating spaces and 2 gathering spaces.
3. Kitchen: Must have island or eat-at bar (usually the sink will be in it) and a walk-in (or really big) pantry
4. Separate laundry room with sink (upstairs or downstairs is fine)
5. Master bathroom: Separate shower and tub, shower should be sizeable with a seat and the tub should be in the shower and separate vanity area (for the ladies)
6. Front courtyard (not needed)
7. Vaulted or high ceilings (not needed but should be 9-10 feet)

8. 3-car garage (real 3-car? not tandem)
9. Reasonable back/side yard space (I would prefer large but can deal with small)
10. Cul-de-sac location (I think I prefer corner lot over cul-de-sac, but depends)

11. Separate his/her master walk-in closets
12. Fully enclosed master shower (see change to 5 with tub in shower)
13. California Room (esp if no backyard)

Adds:
14. Driveway (these are not standard anymore)
15. 1.5+ bathrooms downstairs (2 toilets on the main floor is very convenient)
16. 1-story (older now)
17. Wood-like tiles downstairs, LVP is nice but I've seen some wood tiles that look really good. We have engineered wood now but it's getting dinged up.


For some context, homes like this used to cost around $700-800k in Irvine back then... today... probably $3m+ (I have no idea what new homes cost now other than too much).

Once we empty nest... this list will change, mostly in size, bedroom count and 1-story being a must have (and maybe a velodrome since I bike more now). :)
 
Luckily our current home has most of the items on that list. Took us forever to find it.

Now how do I turn it into a 1-story? :)
 
Pantry closet
At least 1 downstairs bedroom
At least 1 bathroom downstairs with walk-in shower (can remodel from tub if needed)
All bathrooms should have window
Kitchen hood should have external exhaust
Laundry should have external exhaust for dryer
Full sized driveway to park cars
Backyard should be big enough to accommodate decent sized storage shed to the side
Ground floor should be wheelchair accessible without stairs (excluding stairs to 2F), tight doors/corridors, etc.
Preferably, open floorplan for ground floor
 
Here's how I would redo it today (bold are changes):

1. 4 bedrooms and a loft and one bedroom has to be downstairs.
2. Living room/den, dining room and kitchen/nook/great room. Doesn't need all the living spaces but should have at least 2 eating spaces and 2 gathering spaces.
3. Kitchen: Must have island or eat-at bar (usually the sink will be in it) and a walk-in (or really big) pantry
4. Separate laundry room with sink (upstairs or downstairs is fine)
5. Master bathroom: Separate shower and tub, shower should be sizeable with a seat and the tub should be in the shower and separate vanity area (for the ladies)
6. Front courtyard (not needed)
7. Vaulted or high ceilings (not needed but should be 9-10 feet)

8. 3-car garage (real 3-car? not tandem)
9. Reasonable back/side yard space (I would prefer large but can deal with small)
10. Cul-de-sac location (I think I prefer corner lot over cul-de-sac, but depends)

11. Separate his/her master walk-in closets
12. Fully enclosed master shower (see change to 5 with tub in shower)
13. California Room (esp if no backyard)

Adds:
14. Driveway (these are not standard anymore)
15. 1.5+ bathrooms downstairs (2 toilets on the main floor is very convenient)
16. 1-story (older now)
17. Wood-like tiles downstairs, LVP is nice but I've seen some wood tiles that look really good. We have engineered wood now but it's getting dinged up.


For some context, homes like this used to cost around $700-800k in Irvine back then... today... probably $3m+ (I have no idea what new homes cost now other than too much).

Once we empty nest... this list will change, mostly in size, bedroom count and 1-story being a must have (and maybe a velodrome since I bike more now). :)
Haha it's hilarious people remember how bad Graphix's predictions were. Even worse than larry!

I like this list quite a bit, it was very close to what my wife and I looked for when we bought in 2020.

1. We ended up with a four bedroom plus huge open loft upstairs, one bedroom downstairs. This was an absolute must for me, I really like having a private office/library that I can go to without going up my massive staircase.

2. My wife demanded that the dining area be at least somewhat separate from the living room, so an L shaped great room was ok, but not just one long room where the dining room was just extra space between the living room and kitche. We got an L shaped great room.

3. I have the largest island anyone has ever seen, it's comically large. Possibly bigger than some in the TB houses at the top of Orchard Hills.

4. Separate Laundry room.

5. Don't have a separate vanity, but split sinks and that works well.

6. Small walkup courtyard.

7. 10.5 ft ceilings downstairs and a spiral staircase.

8. Haha yeah right I'm not that rich, 3 car garage and all the aforementioned things? Maybe for 8M :P

9. Total lot size is ~4500, so the backyard is spacious to a lot of the newer irvine homes, though not large by any means.

10. On a cul-de-sac

11. No separate closet, just one long one

12. Kind of?

13. I don't like CA rooms, I like more light in the living room. It can work if the house is big enough though.
 
They have 3 car wide garages? I can see 3 car tandem, but 3 car wide I can't see builders using up that much land for it.
 
They have 3 car wide garages? I can see 3 car tandem, but 3 car wide I can't see builders using up that much land for it.
I don't remember if any of the homes had 3 car wide, but my sister's home was 2+1 (on the side). And these are 4000+ sq ft homes, so an extra garage space doesn't really use up that much more land. And Portola Hills is east of 241, so I don't think land is as valuable.
 
There is one feature not yet mentioned but in our current house I start to appreciate over time: big/deep front yard. That means we have some buffer to the street and sidewalk. Not that I really need it (no neighbor right in front us plus the neighborhood is low density each house with wide 3CWG lot, cul de sacs and single loaded streets).

It also makes sitting in the porch more private (shielded by plants) and package delivery a little more secure as you cannot see them driving by.
 
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